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Post by shawty on Dec 20, 2021 8:38:45 GMT -5
With another season under our belts and the usual coaching carousel in full bloom, now seems like a good time to ask the question. A few threads have suggested that once great coaches are out of touch. Even younger coaches aren’t shielded from this criticism. Others have suggested that NIL and the transfer portal have been demotivating for athletes creating instability where players no longer want to fight for a spot on the court or are no longer satisfied with just to be on the roster. Is it a Gen Z thing? Neither NIL nor transfer portal are going away anytime soon. So what’s a coach to do?
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Post by knapplc on Dec 20, 2021 8:42:25 GMT -5
Poll needs a "neither" option. I don't think players are soft or that coaches need to change. These may be Gen Z kids but they're not a monolith. Each player is a unique person, as is every coach. It's the mesh of personalities that's key - and that hasn't changed since the 70s.
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Post by akbar on Dec 20, 2021 8:46:05 GMT -5
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Post by Floyd R. Turbo on Dec 20, 2021 8:48:05 GMT -5
They also need to mind their W's and L's...  Some things never change. |
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Post by akbar on Dec 20, 2021 8:50:45 GMT -5
They also need to mind their W's and L's... Some things never change. 👍 Trust me I feel for coaches in this day and age |
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Dec 20, 2021 10:25:53 GMT -5
Coach's need to adapt. The toothpaste is out of the tube
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 20, 2021 10:33:09 GMT -5
Adapt. Mental health issues in sports are real and the coaches need to recognize their style makes a huge difference.
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Post by vbcoltrane on Dec 20, 2021 10:40:07 GMT -5
There's no universal answer. Every player-coaching situation is different.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Dec 20, 2021 10:45:26 GMT -5
I think athletes have changed over the years.
The generation of High School basketballers before me ran hallways and stairs early morning before school and the coach never told them to.
The generation of High School Ballers after me that I coached often didn't show up for practice because they didn't feel like it or because they had an after school job (something we never would've dreamed of doing)
Look at how many one and done College players there are.
Coaches need to change too.
Long gone are the Bobby Knight (insert whatever well known volleyball coach here that you want) kinds of coaches.
I once watched a famous Canadian coach, back in the 90's, reduce one of his girls to tears because she wasn't performing a drill well. His voice never got above a whisper but to watch her shoulders slowly sag and then heave with sobbing was disconcerting.
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Post by northwoods on Dec 20, 2021 10:49:21 GMT -5
I understand NCAA adopted rules that prohibit coaches from assigning exercise based punishments in practice (running suicides, stadium stairs push-ups etc.) This was a staple in gyms for losing drills or late/rules infractions…. I think this is softening players who already have generational issues thinking the world revolves around them…..
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Post by Wiswell on Dec 20, 2021 10:57:01 GMT -5
I had suicide drills 35 years ago
in bb. They served no purpose then, and they serve no purpose now.
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Post by mma40027002 on Dec 20, 2021 11:00:05 GMT -5
It may be because of where we live and the kind of kids we are around, but I do think a lot of kids are soft and are also enabled by their parents. We live in an upper-middle class area and often times, when a player doesn't get her way or has a consequence she doesn't think she deserves, Mommy comes to the rescue. Mom or Dad will make a phone call or spend some time buttering up the coaches and then things fall into place for their little princess. Do some coaches go too far in their discipline/criticism? Absolutely. Some of them are brutal and disgusting, but we also are living in a world where a lot of kids don't develop coping skills because their parents get them out of everything or try to pave the road to be too smooth for them. Later in life, when these kids are held accountable, it turns into mental health problems. Mental health is a real thing and coaches can definitely add to the problem. There are some coaches that my kids have had that I would never want them playing for again, but if they can get through those experiences, they'll be more prepared for real life. I don't know. Each player/coach situation is unique. Sometimes, it's worth it to stick it out and learn from it, sometimes it isn't.
But yes, I do think some kids are soft.
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Post by tomclen on Dec 20, 2021 11:02:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 12:06:59 GMT -5
I understand NCAA adopted rules that prohibit coaches from assigning exercise based punishments in practice (running suicides, stadium stairs push-ups etc.) This was a staple in gyms for losing drills or late/rules infractions…. I think this is softening players who already have generational issues thinking the world revolves around them….. Agreed |
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Post by oldnewbie on Dec 20, 2021 12:31:16 GMT -5
I had suicide drills 35 years ago in bb. They served no purpose then, and they serve no purpose now. Nothing has changed, including having a very high percentage of coaches that have zero understanding of what you wrote. There are coaches now who quote Wooden to their teams and it is like they only read half of his book. They like the parts about working hard and personal discipline, they completely skip over the parts about never give out physical punishments, never punish an individual in front of the team, never demean a player, practice is a privilege and the punishment is not physical, but to not be allowed to practice, and that practice should be positive in general and should always end on a positive and with complements. |
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