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Post by wahinefan on Dec 3, 2022 0:22:24 GMT -5
Yes, but that was from the Outside Hitter position, and Middle, nothing from the Opposite position. That will change next year. To win in the NCAA Tournament you need contribution from all 3 positions. There are two middles. Hawai’i could use a lot more production from Westerberg. Hawai’i could definitely benefit from having a big hitter in the opposite position, but who doesn’t? That wasn’t the most important reason they lost this match. I am expecting Big Things from Westerberg next year. She will complement Amber Igiede really well next year. As far as Opposite Position, believe Calyn Alexander will be the answer, there. |
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 3, 2022 0:26:47 GMT -5
There are two middles. Hawai’i could use a lot more production from Westerberg. Hawai’i could definitely benefit from having a big hitter in the opposite position, but who doesn’t? That wasn’t the most important reason they lost this match. I am expecting Big Things from Westerberg next year. She will complement Amber Igiede really well next year. As far as Opposite Position, believe Calyn Alexander will be the answer, there. You’ve been saying that about Westerberg for years. She’s a great person, but she’s not going to make any huge jump in her play. She is pretty much at her upper limit in terms of her movement and jump. She could hit the weights and improve her strength, but that is about the extent of it. |
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 3, 2022 0:35:46 GMT -5
I am expecting Big Things from Westerberg next year. She will complement Amber Igiede really well next year. As far as Opposite Position, believe Calyn Alexander will be the answer, there. You’ve been saying that about Westerberg for years. She’s a great person, but she’s not going to make any huge jump in her play. She is pretty much at her upper limit in terms of her movement and jump. She could hit the weights and improve her strength, but that is about the extent of it. Actually, I have not been saying that about Tiffany Westerberg. In fact, I have been quite down on her, until recently. She has shown me, that she still has room for growth, volleyball wise. This match against LSU showed me that she still has room for growth. It is all on her now, how good she wants to become. |
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 3, 2022 0:37:56 GMT -5
You’ve been saying that about Westerberg for years. She’s a great person, but she’s not going to make any huge jump in her play. She is pretty much at her upper limit in terms of her movement and jump. She could hit the weights and improve her strength, but that is about the extent of it. Actually, I have not been saying that about Tiffany Westerberg. In fact, I have been quite down on her, until recently. She has shown me, that she still has room for growth, volleyball wise. This match against LSU showed me that she still has room for growth. It is all on her now, how good she wants to become. She didn’t do anything special in this match to justify optimism about becoming something that people have expected for three years. You are grasping at false hope here. |
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Post by babybacksets on Dec 3, 2022 2:29:11 GMT -5
No….Lol….no. Libero is not the position that the program needs. Those 3 middles are all seniors, it doesn’t make sense to go into the Spring 24 without a middle who has been training within the program and building connection with the setters. UH Can bring in a walk on Libero and be successful just like they did with Ikenaga It should be painfully obvious from watching the top seeded tourney teams--their 2nd DS's are better than our libero. We just lost serve-pass to an SEC team. Schools like Wisconsin and Nebraska are giving full rides to DS's these days. We have none of our back court players on scholarship. If we use one for a middle, it will be 4 middles on scholarship. Our back-court is full of walk ons. I'm an Ikenaga fan, but she's statistically middle of the road in the Big West and if you want to make a run next year, it's the position that can be upgraded the most. You can pick up a middle from the portal in 2024, you don't have to grab one now. (Unless it's a total game changing player) (Seems the coaches agree with me at least if we are going after a small) So your suggestion is to go after a middle and only have a spring and fall camp to get the connection together with a HOPEFUL solid middle with multiple years of eligibility and basically go into the 2024 season with 3 middles that have never played a single game with either setter? Idk it just seems like a risky route to take is all I’m saying and TECHNICALLY we have 4 scholarship middles right now but 1 who will more than likely free her schollie up for the program for 2023. Like I get it, Ikenaga is not the liberos or UH past but I think it’s pretty obvious offensive errors were the main issue this game. Idk the route that the coaching staff is taking for recruiting in 2023 but I know for the following season we’ll have a Libero on the roster and No middles |
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 3, 2022 2:40:51 GMT -5
It should be painfully obvious from watching the top seeded tourney teams--their 2nd DS's are better than our libero. We just lost serve-pass to an SEC team. Schools like Wisconsin and Nebraska are giving full rides to DS's these days. We have none of our back court players on scholarship. If we use one for a middle, it will be 4 middles on scholarship. Our back-court is full of walk ons. I'm an Ikenaga fan, but she's statistically middle of the road in the Big West and if you want to make a run next year, it's the position that can be upgraded the most. You can pick up a middle from the portal in 2024, you don't have to grab one now. (Unless it's a total game changing player) (Seems the coaches agree with me at least if we are going after a small) So your suggestion is to go after a middle and only have a spring and fall camp to get the connection together with a HOPEFUL solid middle with multiple years of eligibility and basically go into the 2024 season with 3 middles that have never played a single game with either setter? Idk it just seems like a risky route to take is all I’m saying and TECHNICALLY we have 4 scholarship middles right now but 1 who will more than likely free her schollie up for the program for 2023. Like I get it, Ikenaga is not the liberos or UH past but I think it’s pretty obvious offensive errors were the main issue this game. Idk the route that the coaching staff is taking for recruiting in 2023 but I know for the following season we’ll have a Libero on the roster and No middles If a scholarship opens up, Robyn would be wise to go after a Middle with at least 2, or even 3 years of eligibility. But the Middle player needs to be able to fit into the team chemistry that has been built. Not really concerned about the Libero position, since it takes about 2 years of playing before becoming a really good Libero in Hawaii's system. All you have to do is look at past Hawaii history of Liberoes. |
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Post by 2left on Dec 3, 2022 3:57:38 GMT -5
Tough outing for the Wahine today. Just watched on YouTube as I didn't see live. They didn't have the energy they normally play with. No spectacular runs to fire them up. No spectacular individual performance to inspire the team. It just was not their day. Every team but one will end this season with a loss, and this one match does not define this Rainbow Wahine team. They played with a ton of heart and determination all season long. I could not be any happier for them and the season they had. They will be back next year, and this loss will motivate them. Congrats on a great season girls, hold your heads up high, and we will be back to back you next season. I was at the game. During that disastrous 15 attack-error second set, the Wahine tightened up and stayed that way the rest of the night. LSU was smiling and loose - facial expression, bodies, demeanor - even when the sets got close. Hawaii looked scared to make a mistake, which a 15 error set might to do a team. Hitting errors aside, I think Hawaii's real strength this year was its defense, and LSU did them one better in that department tonight. Even when UH made a good pass or dig, LSU dug a lot of hits that looked like winners leaving the Wahines' hands. While the setter didn't dump as much as other matches, she really froze the middles and messed up Hawaii's block. |
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Post by babybacksets on Dec 3, 2022 4:21:09 GMT -5
Lol after every season there are always a few of you that BAFFLE me that you are legitimate Hawaii fans. Smh
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Post by toonscivb on Dec 3, 2022 4:28:26 GMT -5
I don’t want to watch any local news tonight because the sports section is going to be about Hawaii’s loss.
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Post by jttaberu on Dec 3, 2022 5:01:52 GMT -5
It took me 6 whiskey/ginger ales tonight to realize that tonight's loss does not define an incredible BW season that the wahine had accomplished. Am I sad that the season has come to an end? Absolutely. But I'm even more excited for next season and the potential we have.
This is also me drunk talking so we'll see how I feel in the morning. 🥴
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2022 5:28:31 GMT -5
I think the incredible thing about Hawaii is fans is that there is still tremendous support whether or not there is a national ranking next to Hawaii’s name, sweet 16, elite 8 or final 4 berths (which used to be the norm!) People take wins and losses to heart. Thank goodness that there is Warrior volleyball to keep everyone’s passions going.
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Post by toonscivb on Dec 3, 2022 5:51:35 GMT -5
All I saw this afternoon was posts about people wanting to watch the game and actively rooting for the Wahine. And after the lost, people were still cheering them on.
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Post by toonscivb on Dec 3, 2022 5:58:09 GMT -5
Now its time to root on the Hawaii born athletes and then root against the teams I do not like that much...
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Post by shai87 on Dec 3, 2022 12:44:02 GMT -5
though I am disappointed we lost so soon, I am very happy that these girls at least got themselves to the tournament itself. the season started out tough, got us frustrated not knowing what the season would look like going forward, but they turned it around. I’m proud of them, no ranking and no national championship will define this team and what they mean to the state of Hawaii. next year looks really bright for this team, and they lose no starters and add very good incoming players. what happens in the off season, well we shall see. see ya all in 2023, thank you Hawaii for another awesome and fun season.
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Post by staticb on Dec 3, 2022 12:49:13 GMT -5
So your suggestion is to go after a middle and only have a spring and fall camp to get the connection together with a HOPEFUL solid middle with multiple years of eligibility and basically go into the 2024 season with 3 middles that have never played a single game with either setter? Idk it just seems like a risky route to take is all I’m saying and TECHNICALLY we have 4 scholarship middles right now but 1 who will more than likely free her schollie up for the program for 2023. Like I get it, Ikenaga is not the liberos or UH past but I think it’s pretty obvious offensive errors were the main issue this game. Idk the route that the coaching staff is taking for recruiting in 2023 but I know for the following season we’ll have a Libero on the roster and No middles Yes--the idea is to build the best team for next year--especially when you have everyone coming back and it's your big year. (Some of the Middles can stay and work with the team in 2024 until the new middles arrive, it's not unheard of) An entire team making offensive errors is usually indicative of another issue with the team. Could be setting, could be passing, the ball, the weather, too difficult to execute strategy. I also floor defense was a huge problem, a lot of balls that we should dig up just aren't. |
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