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Post by bbg95 on Jan 7, 2022 16:07:14 GMT -5
I enjoy volleyball for a lot of reasons but one of them is the high skill level necessary to excel at this sport. These types of changes are not good for the sport and just allows poor play to flourish. . I don't think this rule change will lower skill for setters. Location and decision making are really important skills for setters. If anything, I think not having to worry that they'll be called for a double because the ref didn't like the way the ball is spinning will free them up to focus on more important things.
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Post by Badger Alum on Jan 7, 2022 16:08:30 GMT -5
I enjoy volleyball for a lot of reasons but one of them is the high skill level necessary to excel at this sport. These types of changes are not good for the sport and just allows poor play to flourish. . Promote skill. Don't reward the lack of skill. HATE the no double contact rule. Set better. Simple. Reward skill.
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Post by n00b on Jan 7, 2022 16:09:06 GMT -5
I enjoy volleyball for a lot of reasons but one of them is the high skill level necessary to excel at this sport. These types of changes are not good for the sport and just allows poor play to flourish. . I don't think this rule change will lower skill for setters. Location and decision making are really important skills for setters. If anything, I think not having to worry that they'll be called for a double because the ref didn't like the way the ball is spinning will free them up to focus on more important things. And allow them to go for more spectacular sets.
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 7, 2022 16:09:55 GMT -5
I don't think this rule change will lower skill for setters. Location and decision making are really important skills for setters. If anything, I think not having to worry that they'll be called for a double because the ref didn't like the way the ball is spinning will free them up to focus on more important things. And allow them to go for more spectacular sets. Right. That's what I mean. The last thing I care about with a setter is how "perfect" the contact is. I marvel at great location and decision making.
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Post by jwvolley on Jan 7, 2022 16:10:40 GMT -5
Dear lord the stuff we’re about to see middles do on setter digs lol One year, some time ago, USC's system was actually for Bateman to dig to the middles, and the middles would set the pins when she took the first ball. I don't think I've seen any team (at least of decent level) use this system recently. Well, Caffey could set Alex Jupiter.
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Post by beachgrad on Jan 7, 2022 16:15:01 GMT -5
By allowing double contacts to flourish does lower the standards placed on setters regardless of the high level of overall play at the Olympics. By the college game now allowing so many subs this has diminished the growth of the pin hitters overall game at the expense of better back-row play, now do not have to develop many 6 rotation players. IMO these types of changes are slowly dumbing down the game.
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Post by getbusy on Jan 7, 2022 16:17:10 GMT -5
Does this mean all players will be attempting at setting the second ball?
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Post by leftcoaster71 on Jan 7, 2022 16:21:25 GMT -5
Dear lord the stuff we’re about to see middles do on setter digs lol One year, some time ago, USC's system was actually for Bateman to dig to the middles, and the middles would set the pins when she took the first ball. I don't think I've seen any team (at least of decent level) use this system recently. I wanna say Stanford also did this with Inky and Lutz.
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Post by comet on Jan 7, 2022 16:22:40 GMT -5
I see doubles like a shanked pass. It only hurts your team for the next contact. You're still going to have to train technically to get to the ball and place it correctly. If refs called shanked passes because they weren't technically correct that seems a little silly right? It's just one bad connection. You still have to train correctly to be the best you can to play at a high level. I don't see it as a bad thing.
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Post by jwvolley on Jan 7, 2022 16:26:03 GMT -5
I see doubles like a shanked pass. It only hurts your team for the next contact. You're still going to have to train technically to get to the ball and place it correctly. If refs called shanked passes because they weren't technically correct that seems a little silly right? It's just one bad connection. You still have to train correctly to be the best you can to play at a high level. I don't see it as a bad thing. Opponent serving factors considerably into passing so I don't think that's the best analogy.
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Post by comet on Jan 7, 2022 16:32:15 GMT -5
I see doubles like a shanked pass. It only hurts your team for the next contact. You're still going to have to train technically to get to the ball and place it correctly. If refs called shanked passes because they weren't technically correct that seems a little silly right? It's just one bad connection. You still have to train correctly to be the best you can to play at a high level. I don't see it as a bad thing. Opponent serving factors considerably into passing so I don't think that's the best analogy. My point is that it only hurts your team and your team's next contact, it's not impacting the other team or their play. Your coach is still going to want you to be technically sound so your hitters have the best chance to get a kill. Now if it goes over the net, then it should be called.
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Post by Anonymousnow on Jan 7, 2022 16:42:29 GMT -5
Had a parent at a club tournament tell me if they get rid of the double every 6’4” kid is going to become a setter. And unfortunately I agree with her. They have already taken away the 5’11” outside hitter, now the 5’8” setter will go the way of the dinosaur as well.
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Post by n00b on Jan 7, 2022 16:43:15 GMT -5
Had a parent at a club tournament tell me if they get rid of the double every 6’4” kid is going to become a setter. And unfortunately I agree with her. They have already taken away the 5’11” outside hitter, now the 5’8” setter will go the way of the dinosaur as well. This is really, really not true.
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Post by bballnut90 on Jan 7, 2022 16:54:11 GMT -5
I'm cautiously optimistic about the no-double rule. Even if there are a couple of ugly sets here and there, I'd rather see a point ended on a hit/block vs a double contact call. I also don't think players will all of a sudden start setting every other ball as a double contact. Training will remain the same and we'll get more volleyball as a result with fewer stoppages.
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Post by Sooners1822 on Jan 7, 2022 17:00:36 GMT -5
many here are acting as if just because doubles wouldn't be called, all the sudden it opens the flood gates for those who can't set 'clean' to go for it. There is so much more to setting than it coming out clean all the time.
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