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Post by babybacksets on Aug 9, 2022 19:08:53 GMT -5
With all of the movement in the conference, I can only think of Stanford and Washington being bigger threats for the conference title. Which other teams do you think will be fighting for top three spots? "Bigger"? I don't know. I suspect the winner of the conference will come out of: Washington, Stanford, Oregon, WSU, UCLA, USC, and maybe Utah Of those, it's quite interesting that WSU's setter moved over to Oregon as a grad transfer. Luper and Hoffman are also quite interesting in that they seem to be absolutely vital for team success, but neither have yet had a college season where they were healthy and available to play the entire season. Agreed. I don’t think there are any locks for conference champ this season. Those 5 you mentioned will all be very talented and I don’t think there are any players outside of Fields that can change the tide of a match on their offensive output. Non conference games will be the best tell of who has it figured out earliest and can maintain that through the PAC12. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 9, 2022 22:35:20 GMT -5
"Bigger"? I don't know. I suspect the winner of the conference will come out of: Washington, Stanford, Oregon, WSU, UCLA, USC, and maybe Utah Of those, it's quite interesting that WSU's setter moved over to Oregon as a grad transfer. Luper and Hoffman are also quite interesting in that they seem to be absolutely vital for team success, but neither have yet had a college season where they were healthy and available to play the entire season. Agreed. I don’t think there are any locks for conference champ this season. Those 5 you mentioned will all be very talented and I don’t think there are any players outside of Fields that can change the tide of a match on their offensive output. Non conference games will be the best tell of who has it figured out earliest and can maintain that through the PAC12. Non con will be a good first indicator, but uneven SOS and with so many new players on so many of these teams (xfr and frosh), I'd give it to mid-season, and even then you need to evaluate which teams have already peaked and which are still gelling and steadily improving. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 10, 2022 3:45:53 GMT -5
Agreed. I don’t think there are any locks for conference champ this season. Those 5 you mentioned will all be very talented and I don’t think there are any players outside of Fields that can change the tide of a match on their offensive output. Non conference games will be the best tell of who has it figured out earliest and can maintain that through the PAC12. Non con will be a good first indicator, but uneven SOS and with so many new players on so many of these teams (xfr and frosh), I'd give it to mid-season, and even then you need to evaluate which teams have already peaked and which are still gelling and steadily improving. It's even easier to predict the conference winner if you wait until early December. By then you'll have a great read on the strength of the teams. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 10, 2022 4:53:43 GMT -5
Non con will be a good first indicator, but uneven SOS and with so many new players on so many of these teams (xfr and frosh), I'd give it to mid-season, and even then you need to evaluate which teams have already peaked and which are still gelling and steadily improving. It's even easier to predict the conference winner if you wait until early December. By then you'll have a great read on the strength of the teams. Well, no, since a prediction is by definition about an event in the future and the conference is already finished by Thanksgiving weekend. I'll assume you just honestly missed that along with the entire point of my post. Assuming otherwise would make you sound like a pompous ass, misunderstanding on purpose in an attempt to belittle a poster. What would be the point of that? My point wasn't to be overly subtle and I'm happy to walk you through it if you need. There was plenty of discussion during the ncaa basketball season of how the development arc of teams has changed due to incorporating experienced players showing up without an off season to gel. That seems very applicable when talking about teams like UCLA, Oregon and WSU which are incorporating new setters. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 10, 2022 8:04:13 GMT -5
It's even easier to predict the conference winner if you wait until early December. By then you'll have a great read on the strength of the teams. Well, no, since a prediction is by definition about an event in the future and the conference is already finished by Thanksgiving weekend. I'll assume you just honestly missed that along with the entire point of my post. Assuming otherwise would make you sound like a pompous ass, misunderstanding on purpose in an attempt to belittle a poster. What would be the point of that? My point wasn't to be overly subtle and I'm happy to walk you through it if you need. There was plenty of discussion during the ncaa basketball season of how the development arc of teams has changed due to incorporating experienced players showing up without an off season to gel. That seems very applicable when talking about teams like UCLA, Oregon and WSU which are incorporating new setters. I'll just guess you missed the entire point of my post, which was that OF COURSE it is easier to predict the season with half of it behind you. |
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Post by babybacksets on Aug 10, 2022 11:15:28 GMT -5
It's even easier to predict the conference winner if you wait until early December. By then you'll have a great read on the strength of the teams. Well, no, since a prediction is by definition about an event in the future and the conference is already finished by Thanksgiving weekend. I'll assume you just honestly missed that along with the entire point of my post. Assuming otherwise would make you sound like a pompous ass, misunderstanding on purpose in an attempt to belittle a poster. What would be the point of that? My point wasn't to be overly subtle and I'm happy to walk you through it if you need. There was plenty of discussion during the ncaa basketball season of how the development arc of teams has changed due to incorporating experienced players showing up without an off season to gel. That seems very applicable when talking about teams like UCLA, Oregon and WSU which are incorporating new setters. Why did this reply seem so unnecessarily aggressive? lol |
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Post by texashorns on Aug 15, 2022 13:48:36 GMT -5
Favor and Kaia caffe are visiting right now
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Post by babybacksets on Aug 16, 2022 1:46:42 GMT -5
The two frosh would really have to bomb for that to happen, I’d imagine. Considering the injury issues with McCall and Luper last year, and the up and down play of Ndiaye, the two freshmen OHs need to be ready to go. If they aren't, UCLA will struggle. Lane can definitely block at OPP, but setting her to hit would not be ideal. Luper’s injury wasn’t a volleyball injury |
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Post by babybacksets on Aug 16, 2022 1:47:14 GMT -5
When did Dueck to UCLA even happen??? Months ago. between Dueck and Cole, who do you see winning out the Libero jersey |
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Post by vbsam16 on Aug 16, 2022 2:04:01 GMT -5
between Dueck and Cole, who do you see winning out the Libero jersey I feel like it has to be Cole, no? |
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Post by babybacksets on Aug 16, 2022 2:23:10 GMT -5
between Dueck and Cole, who do you see winning out the Libero jersey I feel like it has to be Cole, no? I’m thinking so too but I know Dueck did a really good job for Cal Poly, sure the conferences are not the same but I just want to know what the statistical differences are. My money is for sure in Cole. |
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Post by vballfreak808 on Aug 16, 2022 2:24:35 GMT -5
Anyone know if UCLA is having a scrimmage this weekend?
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Post by littlerockop on Aug 19, 2022 15:26:54 GMT -5
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 22, 2022 19:49:14 GMT -5
So any insider want to give us the details on what’s going on in the gym? Is Luper there and playing? How does Cole look?? Is Mckissok getting the setting role? If so? How does she look with the team? These seem to be the top 3 questions concerning how good UCLA will be to start.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2022 16:07:11 GMT -5
Have we ever had a Bruin insider besides bigheadfan I mean bwf? Where has he been?
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