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Post by avid 2.0 on Mar 10, 2022 9:17:14 GMT -5
Looking at the FIVB rankings for men: - in the top 10 countries, 6 are europeans, 3 are from north + south americas, 1 asian - in the top 20 countries, 9 are europeans (Turkey is in the CEV), 6 are from N+S Americas, 3 from Asia, 1 from Africa (the CAVB) You get 13 countries over 20 who would be pleased to see the VB World Championships being hosted in Qatar. Qatar is ranked 20, Australia... only 31. Say what you want, if the "match" was to be decided between those 2 countries, the most logical decision would go to Qatar. it would be incredibly ironic to take it away from Russia for their actions and then give it to a renowned respecter of human rights such as Qatar. It's a world competition... not a European one. It's been hosted in Europe 6 times since 1974, South America 3 times, Japan twice. North America hasn't hosted since 1974. Oceania has never hosted. How are you supposed to grow the game if the game is not expanding to new places? |
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Post by shortlibero on Mar 10, 2022 9:28:07 GMT -5
Looking at the FIVB rankings for men: - in the top 10 countries, 6 are europeans, 3 are from north + south americas, 1 asian - in the top 20 countries, 9 are europeans (Turkey is in the CEV), 6 are from N+S Americas, 3 from Asia, 1 from Africa (the CAVB) You get 13 countries over 20 who would be pleased to see the VB World Championships being hosted in Qatar. Qatar is ranked 20, Australia... only 31. Say what you want, if the "match" was to be decided between those 2 countries, the most logical decision would go to Qatar. it would be incredibly ironic to take it away from Russia for their actions and then give it to a renowned respecter of human rights such as Qatar. It's a world competition... not a European one. It's been hosted in Europe 6 times since 1974, South America 3 times, Japan twice. North America hasn't hosted since 1974. Oceania has never hosted. How are you supposed to grow the game if the game is not expanding to new places? Start making a REAL league with professionals playing for clubs or franchises like it's done in basket-ball, baseball or american football. The other confederations have confederation clubs league, then each winner faces the others in the FIVB world club championships... the NORCECA is totally absent of that system, how can it be possible to keep your better players at home and REALLY develop the game without switching to the pro sport of VB ? University sport is dead sport, it's an american thing only, the world is way ahead of you. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Mar 10, 2022 9:56:25 GMT -5
it would be incredibly ironic to take it away from Russia for their actions and then give it to a renowned respecter of human rights such as Qatar. It's a world competition... not a European one. It's been hosted in Europe 6 times since 1974, South America 3 times, Japan twice. North America hasn't hosted since 1974. Oceania has never hosted. How are you supposed to grow the game if the game is not expanding to new places? Start making a REAL league with professionals playing for clubs or franchises like it's done in basket-ball, baseball or american football. The other confederations have confederation clubs league, then each winner faces the others in the FIVB world club championships... the NORCECA is totally absent of that system, how can it be possible to keep your better players at home and REALLY develop the game without switching to the pro sport of VB ? University sport is dead sport, it's an american thing only, the world is way ahead of you. There will never be a top tier men's pro league in the USA (probably not in Canada either). They dont have the benefits the Euro/Asian teams get. How can NORCECA be expected to grow if the pro game isn't exposed to them? Maybe they are (ahead)... but the university system isn't changing, and USAV/Canada Volleyball can't control that. I'm not even advocating for NORCECA to host. I think Australia would be a great host. My point is, keeping volleyball where its already established, not trying to expand their horizons, isn't a good thing. |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Mar 10, 2022 14:22:05 GMT -5
Looking at the FIVB rankings for men: - in the top 10 countries, 6 are europeans, 3 are from north + south americas, 1 asian - in the top 20 countries, 9 are europeans (Turkey is in the CEV), 6 are from N+S Americas, 3 from Asia, 1 from Africa (the CAVB) You get 13 countries over 20 who would be pleased to see the VB World Championships being hosted in Qatar. Qatar is ranked 20, Australia... only 31. Say what you want, if the "match" was to be decided between those 2 countries, the most logical decision would go to Qatar. It's a world competition... not a European one. It's been hosted in Europe 6 times since 1974, South America 3 times, Japan twice. North America hasn't hosted since 1974. Oceania has never hosted. How are you supposed to grow the game if the game is not expanding to new places? I humbly suggest Saudi Arabia as a bastion of human rights instead of either Russia or Qatar. /s
(but for real, it's never about human rights but about active events of war)
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Post by breadunnie on Mar 12, 2022 2:42:12 GMT -5
I'm not so sure that is productive. Russian events, Russian teams, Russian ownership, yes. The athletes are not part of the 'inner circle' actions that make the individual Russian citizen a pariah, should be done with some forethought. The goal isn't make every single person in Russia feel 'ashamed', it's to make them have a productive message to change the leadership or influence the leadership in Russia, and I'm not sure the consequence of banning those athletics is that well thought out. The Russian people will be feeling a sense of desperation, and the goal would not be them to develop the same 'siege' mentality that Russian leadership currently has. Look my friend....the BS Zenit is pulling with Micah right now is unacceptable. The European Market and leagues for Men's and Women's Volleyball (all sports) was just turned on its head because of what the Russian Govt is doing. Players salaries in every league will take a nose dive as the market is flooded with men and women fleeing Russian clubs (and clubs close to Ukraine) and Euro clubs and leagues will take advantage going on the cheap. The more pressure on the Russian people and govt the better because honestly THEY are part of the solution out of this now world mess. Sorry, but the whole of Russia needs to embrace change and NOT the operational iron fist rule dating back to the post Golden Horde years. I'm missing out.. what's going on with Zenit and Micah |
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Post by akbar on Mar 12, 2022 7:03:26 GMT -5
Look my friend....the BS Zenit is pulling with Micah right now is unacceptable. The European Market and leagues for Men's and Women's Volleyball (all sports) was just turned on its head because of what the Russian Govt is doing. Players salaries in every league will take a nose dive as the market is flooded with men and women fleeing Russian clubs (and clubs close to Ukraine) and Euro clubs and leagues will take advantage going on the cheap. The more pressure on the Russian people and govt the better because honestly THEY are part of the solution out of this now world mess. Sorry, but the whole of Russia needs to embrace change and NOT the operational iron fist rule dating back to the post Golden Horde years. I'm missing out.. what's going on with Zenit and Micah Threats of Lawsuit if he and his family left Russia. On a side note, David Smith and Erik Shoji have been raising money and coordinating efforts to help Ukrainian refugee families in Poland I'm hearing. 👍❤️❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏 |
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Post by dragan11 on Mar 12, 2022 13:01:41 GMT -5
nothing is going on with zenit and micah. he is just happy to play in there. tatarstan is much far away from political tension. his kid is going to very fancy school. he is the second captain in the team and his relationship with his teammates is really good. maybe too good lol.
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Post by akbar on Mar 12, 2022 13:14:36 GMT -5
nothing is going on with zenit and micah. he is just happy to play in there. tatarstan is much far away from political tension. his kid is going to very fancy school. he is the second captain in the team and his relationship with his teammates is really good. maybe too good lol. 👍 Noboby will ever doubt Micah's likeability and that his teammates and athletes in general just wanna play ball and win. All of our top guys are consummate professionals and work really hard to be great teammates. I fully appreciate your post and positive post and outlook. Glad to hear. I'll be happier when he and his family is home. |
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Post by basil on Mar 19, 2022 11:34:51 GMT -5
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Post by avid 2.0 on Mar 22, 2022 8:41:21 GMT -5
Serbia and Turkey are one bid. Qatar and Poland are the second and third. also this is off topic but I can't find a different thread... Bernardinho resigned from France today. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Mar 22, 2022 10:22:34 GMT -5
Serbia and Turkey are one bid. Qatar and Poland are the second and third. also this is off topic but I can't find a different thread... Bernardinho resigned from France today. What?! Already?? Did I miss something? |
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Post by basil on Mar 22, 2022 10:55:34 GMT -5
Serbia and Turkey are one bid. Qatar and Poland are the second and third. also this is off topic but I can't find a different thread... Bernardinho resigned from France today. What?! Already?? Did I miss something? talks to Ngapeth one time… /s but kinda not really |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Mar 22, 2022 11:02:14 GMT -5
Serbia and Turkey are one bid. Qatar and Poland are the second and third. also this is off topic but I can't find a different thread... Bernardinho resigned from France today. What?! Already?? Did I miss something? he mentioned personal problems or something. idk if its family or something deeper |
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Post by bruinsgold on Mar 22, 2022 15:17:22 GMT -5
What?! Already?? Did I miss something? talks to Ngapeth one time… /s but kinda not really How did you know this is the first thing I thought?! 😂 |
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Post by basil on Mar 22, 2022 15:25:37 GMT -5
talks to Ngapeth one time… /s but kinda not really How did you know this is the first thing I thought?! 😂 drama and the French national team - it's a pretty common conclusion to come to  |
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