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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2022 21:02:23 GMT -5
Who do you have on the pins that will get MSU that high? I think Michigan State will surprise us. With their new coach and a lot of new members on the team I really don’t know what to expect. I’d assume their transfer from Illinois State Aliyah Moore will get an OH spot and either work one of the 5 MB expected to be on the roster to an OH, or one of the incoming freshmen. Would be fun to see a lefty hitting outside like Dani Drew did for Utah All those options don’t look good for a little thing called passing. I think the coach is great but a learning curve (Valley to Big 10) will be part of the deal as well. A team needs at least 3 lockdown, proven passers to have a chance in the Big 10, imo.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on May 6, 2022 21:19:20 GMT -5
I think Michigan State will surprise us. With their new coach and a lot of new members on the team I really don’t know what to expect. I’d assume their transfer from Illinois State Aliyah Moore will get an OH spot and either work one of the 5 MB expected to be on the roster to an OH, or one of the incoming freshmen. Would be fun to see a lefty hitting outside like Dani Drew did for Utah All those options don’t look good for a little thing called passing. I think the coach is great but a learning curve (Valley to Big 10) will be part of the deal as well. A team needs at least 3 lockdown, proven passers to have a chance in the Big 10, imo. I agree with both you and stearnscountygopher in that MSU's ceiling just went up with the new HC's hiring, and yet it will definitely take time for a turnaround. As you correctly said, passing is a huge component of successful B1G teams. Good-to-great serve receive & high GP% is not there for the Spartans....yet! As the OP presented this our guessathon is for the next five years. MSU '26?
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Post by volleyaudience on May 7, 2022 18:42:08 GMT -5
Iowa, Michigan State, and Penn State. Three new coaching teams to watch this year. Is that high for the Big Ten?
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on May 7, 2022 18:59:02 GMT -5
Penn State new coaching. Is that normal in the Big Ten? FIFY! The quantum magnitude inherent in Russ Rose's retirement seriously dwarfs any other coaching changes. *And no* it's not common for that many in the B1G.
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Post by badgerbreath on May 7, 2022 19:15:51 GMT -5
fewer votes for Wisconsin than Nebraska and Minnesota in the poll for top (7 votes) of the heap, which led to my curiosity. no one made that specific argument for sure. Oh, I see. I wasn't looking at the poll. I guess you're right that Wisconsin has fewer votes. The only argument is that UW fell out of the top half relatively recently compared to other programs (2008-2012). So maybe there is some lingering doubt? Based purely on experience with a program?
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Post by Kearney Kingston on May 7, 2022 19:16:42 GMT -5
I think Michigan State will surprise us. With their new coach and a lot of new members on the team I really don’t know what to expect. I’d assume their transfer from Illinois State Aliyah Moore will get an OH spot and either work one of the 5 MB expected to be on the roster to an OH, or one of the incoming freshmen. Would be fun to see a lefty hitting outside like Dani Drew did for Utah All those options don’t look good for a little thing called passing. I think the coach is great but a learning curve (Valley to Big 10) will be part of the deal as well. A team needs at least 3 lockdown, proven passers to have a chance in the Big 10, imo. I don’t understand how Sparty supporters who are familiar with the program believe their ceiling grew higher with the mid-major coach taking over the program from a veteran Big Ten coach. Please expand. George is a native of Illinois, played at Illinois State, took a mid-major to the Final Four. How many NCAA wins does Johnson have? Who is her best recruit? Serious questions.
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Post by bbg95 on May 7, 2022 19:18:27 GMT -5
Oh, I see. I wasn't looking at the poll. I guess you're right that Wisconsin has fewer votes. The only argument is that UW fell out of the top half relatively recently compared to other programs (2008-2012). So maybe there is some lingering doubt? Based purely on experience with a program? Hmm, I suppose that's possible, but that era was pre-Sheffield.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 22:50:45 GMT -5
Iowa, Michigan State, and Penn State. Three new coaching teams to watch this year. Is that high for the Big Ten? Not sure there has been 3 new hires in 1 year in the Big 10.
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Post by savannahbadger on May 8, 2022 15:18:19 GMT -5
I don’t understand how Sparty supporters who are familiar with the program believe their ceiling grew higher with the mid-major coach taking over the program from a veteran Big Ten coach. To be fair, Kelly Sheffield took Wisconsin to the national title match his first year, after coming to UW from Dayton. To be realistic, I don’t think MSU has a Carlini nor the same talent as the Badgers had in 2013.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2022 15:39:51 GMT -5
Coaching is overrated. Recruiting is underrated.
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Post by robtearle on May 8, 2022 15:45:31 GMT -5
Coaching is overrated. Recruiting is underrated. After watching the varied and 'creative' ways Sheffield used the players available to him from one week and month to the next last season, and the number of different lineups and rotations, and ways he managed to win matches, I *very* much disagree. Of course recruiting is greatly important. But then using the 'pieces' to maximum advantage as important.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2022 15:58:13 GMT -5
Didn’t say it wasn’t important. It is. Just overrated most of the time compared to the players impact.
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Post by robtearle on May 8, 2022 16:04:53 GMT -5
Didn’t say it wasn’t important. It is. Just overrated most of the time compared to the players impact. Again, I disagree. Teams succeed when coaches tweak their rotations until their optimal is found, and then do it over again when injuries 'break' that optimum. The better the coach is at finding those tweaks, the more successful the team becomes.
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Post by psuvbfan10 on May 8, 2022 16:16:53 GMT -5
The HC does need to create a positive culture.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2022 16:42:28 GMT -5
Agree with PSU..
Coaches tweaks are completely overrated.
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