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Post by robtearle on Sept 26, 2022 10:14:47 GMT -5
So they have been in the gym going on 2 months: and wrobel cant crack this line up in any situation? What osnt she doing in practice?? If it’s a matter of not doing something in practice, I’m guessing it’s passing better than other options. If she needs more work in that area, she’s ought to be considering a redshirt year (assuming she hasn’t burned it already). Wrobel has already played in matches. She can no longer 'red shirt'. If she were to become injured, I think she would still be able to qualify for a 'medical hardship' year. But the possibility of a 'red shirt' year is gone. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Sept 26, 2022 11:01:24 GMT -5
Not when she's hitting 0.305 on the season. Moving her to libero would be idiocy. That’s kinda what I was thinking, but I mean at this point her passing seems better than GG. Moving an OH to Libero to help your passing seems suspect. Teams could avoid serving Orzol even more easily if she's wearing a different color jersey, and it's not like UW has some great passer in the wings who can still contribute anywhere near Orzol's level at the pin. Also, GG's passing will improve, though it's definitely the weakest part of her game and there's no reason to think she'll do a 180 on that. But it's worth remembering that, while a lot of teams had a summer together in the gym to work on synergy, two of UW's three passers were in Europe, and GG even missed 5 days of Fall practice. It shouldn't be surprising that our passing is lagging behind other parts of our game. |
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Post by tomclen on Sept 26, 2022 11:09:39 GMT -5
I'm not suggesting the outcome would have been different, but that early incorrect whistle on a dug ball late in the 3rd set stopped what may have been a real momentum turn for Wisconsin.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 26, 2022 11:31:42 GMT -5
That’s kinda what I was thinking, but I mean at this point her passing seems better than GG. Moving an OH to Libero to help your passing seems suspect. Teams could avoid serving Orzol even more easily if she's wearing a different color jersey, and it's not like UW has some great passer in the wings who can still contribute anywhere near Orzol's level at the pin. Also, GG's passing will improve, though it's definitely the weakest part of her game and there's no reason to think she'll do a 180 on that. But it's worth remembering that, while a lot of teams had a summer together in the gym to work on synergy, two of UW's three passers were in Europe, and GG even missed 5 days of Fall practice. It shouldn't be surprising that our passing is lagging behind other parts of our game. Yeah I don’t get the calls to move Orzol to libero. She already passes 6 rotations now, so all you’d be accomplishing is removing her attacking, which has been good this year. There are two obvious replacements for GG and neither can play right now. Unless Reed or AnnaMac can show us something new, GG is the one. When Bramschreiber and Boyer become available, then some decisions will have to get made. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 26, 2022 11:38:36 GMT -5
You're panicking. If you don't pass, it doesn't matter if Smrek is in the middle, she's not getting the ball. And when teams find out that Hart and CC can't hit of two feet on the RS, they know we're going to her anyway. Rettke and Hilley bailed us out so often because they could run a slide on a pass to the 10' line. That opened up the court for Smrek. They need to get the passing together before Smrek can be a threat from the middle. In the mean time, she has to learn to hit out of the right side. Hart and CC run slides; they don't hit off two feet on the right. Sheff has played around with CC off two feet on the right earlier in preseason. We’ve heard him talk about training Hart to hit OOS. But my point is that somebody needs to be able to hit off two feet on the right at least some of the time. Else it all gets way too predictable. They have never had Smrek hit solely out of the middle. Even in the final four she hit off the right pin at times with the middle going up in front of the setter. I don’t see CC or Hart being that effective out of the right except on the slide. Smrek needs to do that if she wants to stay in. |
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Post by HeyHey on Sept 26, 2022 11:39:48 GMT -5
The best I've seem Minnesota play in what seems like a long time. |
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Post by curiouskg on Sept 26, 2022 11:49:39 GMT -5
These posts referring to Sheff / CC and Shaff / CC make my brain hurt this morning. Need more coffee.
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 26, 2022 12:25:32 GMT -5
Wrobel has already played in matches. She can no longer 'red shirt'. If she were to become injured, I think she would still be able to qualify for a 'medical hardship' year. But the possibility of a 'red shirt' year is gone. Ah, damn. That sucks. They really ought to take up the inequality in redshirting rules in VB vs FB. Some freshmen ought to be able to see the floor for a few matches and still be able to redshirt. |
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Post by sptimes2 on Sept 26, 2022 12:30:45 GMT -5
So, what are the redshirt rules? If non-medical, then 1 match takes away the possibility? If medical, then they're allowed to play a certain percentage of the team's schedule? For example, Landfair got a medical redshirt in 2021 and she played in 9 matches.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 26, 2022 12:41:37 GMT -5
So, what are the redshirt rules? If non-medical, then 1 match takes away the possibility? If medical, then they're allowed to play a certain percentage of the team's schedule? For example, Landfair got a medical redshirt in 2021 and she played in 9 matches. You can get a medical redshirt if you play below a certain number of matches and not after a particular point in the season. |
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Post by dodger on Sept 26, 2022 13:04:50 GMT -5
I'm not suggesting the outcome would have been different, but that early incorrect whistle on a dug ball late in the 3rd set stopped what may have been a real momentum turn for Wisconsin. Nope off that dig eould have been a free ball for minny: better to get a new start on rally |
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Post by Kearney Kingston on Sept 26, 2022 13:30:36 GMT -5
That’s kinda what I was thinking, but I mean at this point her passing seems better than GG. Moving an OH to Libero to help your passing seems suspect. Teams could avoid serving Orzol even more easily if she's wearing a different color jersey, and it's not like UW has some great passer in the wings who can still contribute anywhere near Orzol's level at the pin. Also, GG's passing will improve, though it's definitely the weakest part of her game and there's no reason to think she'll do a 180 on that. But it's worth remembering that, while a lot of teams had a summer together in the gym to work on synergy, two of UW's three passers were in Europe, and GG even missed 5 days of Fall practice. It shouldn't be surprising that our passing is lagging behind other parts of our game. I thought teams sought her out when serving. |
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Post by robtearle on Sept 26, 2022 13:52:21 GMT -5
So, what are the redshirt rules? If non-medical, then 1 match takes away the possibility? If medical, then they're allowed to play a certain percentage of the team's schedule? For example, Landfair got a medical redshirt in 2021 and she played in 9 matches. They changed the rule for football, but I think it was only for football (and maybe subsquently basketball?). It was the case that if a player played "even one second", their opportunity to claim a voluntary redshirt year would be gone. Football changed to where a player could play in up to four games and still 'redshirt'. There was talk of a similar change for basketball, but I don't know if it ever went into effect. As best I know "even one second" still applies to volleyball. 'Medical hardship' (again, unless it has changed) is no more than 30% of the team's games/matches, and none after the midpoint of the season. Landfair's nine matches stays under 30% if the NCAA tournament matches are included, but not if it is 30% of the regular season. Is it 'known' that Landfair indeed was granted a medical hardship year? |
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Post by vollem on Sept 26, 2022 13:59:41 GMT -5
Is it 'known' that Landfair indeed was granted a medical hardship year? Yes. |
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Post by vollem on Sept 26, 2022 14:01:23 GMT -5
Wrobel has already played in matches. She can no longer 'red shirt'. If she were to become injured, I think she would still be able to qualify for a 'medical hardship' year. But the possibility of a 'red shirt' year is gone. Ah, damn. That sucks. They really ought to take up the inequality in redshirting rules in VB vs FB. Some freshmen ought to be able to see the floor for a few matches and still be able to redshirt. Any other rule changes you’d like? |
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