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Post by GoGophs on Dec 3, 2023 8:37:38 GMT -5
THIS And the off tempo executions were merely free balls for the most part, not leading to an OOS response Part of this has to do with the predictability of the offense. Minnesota doesn't have the variety of plays the other teams have. Remember when Samedy would hit out of the middle? Also, how about an OH, like Wucherer hitting a gap set. Hoping KCook gets more creative. I think the players have more fun, also, when they have something new to execute. I'm hopeful we see more of this next season... we saw glimpses of Grote hitting a slide, Davis hit right side a couple times, Wuchs started hitting a D ball etc. KCook said this team needs more training in the post match interview and I think that says it all. He's a good coach and is well aware of the predictability of the offense. I think (and hope) everyone stays and he's viewing this season as preparation for the next. I expect lots and lots and lots of work in the off season to fix some of these big issues |
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Post by comet on Dec 3, 2023 9:01:20 GMT -5
Part of this has to do with the predictability of the offense. Minnesota doesn't have the variety of plays the other teams have. Remember when Samedy would hit out of the middle? Also, how about an OH, like Wucherer hitting a gap set. Hoping KCook gets more creative. I think the players have more fun, also, when they have something new to execute. I'm hopeful we see more of this next season... we saw glimpses of Grote hitting a slide, Davis hit right side a couple times, Wuchs started hitting a D ball etc. KCook said this team needs more training in the post match interview and I think that says it all. He's a good coach and is well aware of the predictability of the offense. I think (and hope) everyone stays and he's viewing this season as preparation for the next. I expect lots and lots and lots of work in the off season to fix some of these big issues I heard the "need more training" thing as well. My thought is this is the same core of players from last year who played under Hugh and were executing a more diverse offense then. What has changed? Mel and the outsides suddenly don't know how to do this stuff anymore? Or the new system they're running they haven't fully grasped yet? I just don't quite understand. I'm hopeful some coaches can help explain it to me, because I'm just not getting it. |
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Post by Hawk Attack on Dec 3, 2023 9:51:01 GMT -5
Minnesota fans…. Creighton is a very very good team. Have been underrated. When Nebraska played them, Sis was out, and they still took a set. With Sis playing they are a great team. Very good coach as well. Don’t be too hard on your team. I don’t think anyone is trying to discredit Creighton. That wasn’t the point. The point was maybe cut your players a little bit of slack… for once. Season’s over and you’re already salivating at the idea of starters transferring out. Like damn. |
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Dec 3, 2023 10:18:50 GMT -5
I don’t think anyone is trying to discredit Creighton. That wasn’t the point. The point was maybe cut your players a little bit of slack… for once. Season’s over and you’re already salivating at the idea of starters transferring out. Like damn. Well, to be fare, no one wants players to transfer out. We lost a MB and a Libero to graduation and we have a setter and OH coming in. It doesn't match up. We are hoping to fill shortages with transfers, not transfers with transfers. I don't think a little critique or a wish list for next year is so bad. I think our talented pin hitters are underutilized. There are some non Minnesota fans suggesting a transfer out but that is sabotage; we would never get an OH as good as Landfair or Wucherer out of the portal. |
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Post by mcmike on Dec 3, 2023 10:30:04 GMT -5
Part of this has to do with the predictability of the offense. Minnesota doesn't have the variety of plays the other teams have. Remember when Samedy would hit out of the middle? Also, how about an OH, like Wucherer hitting a gap set. Hoping KCook gets more creative. I think the players have more fun, also, when they have something new to execute. This. Haven’t been able to understand why they didn’t mix things up? These are top players at their respective positions in the country, and they failed to put it all together for the entire season. Speculating, but I don’t think Cook trusts Shaffmaster’s set location. Which I don’t blame him there. y'all are mindreaders! genej101 "When your power hitters hit 5 roll/tip shots to 1 real swing, well, that’s always a problem. Those should be occasional shots, not nearly every swing. I see a lot of that in the tournament but no one as much as MN. They didn’t play nearly as well tonight as last night. Inconsistent sets hurt the hitters, though Shaff does a lot of other things really well. Murr was a treat to have with us and watch. I think this team has to change a lot to be competitive in next year’s BIG conference. Right now this group won’t be even with losing only two seniors. Disappointing season all around. First time I’ve felt like that at the end of a season in a long time." GoGophs "KCook said this team needs more training in the post match interview and I think that says it all. He's a good coach and is well aware of the predictability of the offense. I think (and hope) everyone stays and he's viewing this season as preparation for the next. I expect lots and lots and lots of work in the off season to fix some of these big issues" Comet "I heard the "need more training" thing as well. My thought is this is the same core of players from last year who played under Hugh and were executing a more diverse offense then. What has changed? Mel and the outsides suddenly don't know how to do this stuff anymore? Or the new system they're running they haven't fully grasped yet? I just don't quite understand. I'm sure some coaches can help me out." Jeepers, a couple of days ago, mentioned that TayLa's non-conf production may have been due to a lingering core issue. Is there any question but that she demonstrated a terminal velocity a year ago that was rarely in evidence this year. I would greatly enjoy side by side video captures of her spiking approaches and deliveries year over year. Moving forward and away from Hugh's low error strategy to become more dynamic, particularly on OOS sets, has proven very difficult. Baseball players have access to Driveline tinyurl.com/dmvtfd79I'd like to see TayLa get some professional body mechanic analysis too. I don't want to see any portal transfers. Frankly, if TayLa doesn't recapture her top tier skills, though, I wouldn't mind her seeking other pastures. For that matter, I suspect Shaff's set location is also a nagging problem that defies description. When MN passing was painfully subpar the location was more understandable. Shaff is great above the net and on defense, but a team's bread is buttered on accurate sets and that is not Shaff's strength. If the Swenson twins are on campus in January, we will know soon enough if the family's setting magic obliviates the need to retain Shaff as a setter for her Covid year OOB MUSE Invert the MN offense completely for half the rotations Crowl OPP ON THE LEFT with natural slide going left not right Shaff MB Wookie D balls, gap sets, and RS power more |
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Post by comet on Dec 3, 2023 11:30:25 GMT -5
I heard the commentators last night say that Creighton had been doing some mental coaching as well, which I think really paid off. They played loose the whole night.
I'd like to see the Gophers work on that, it could be very beneficial.
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Post by neatwithatwist on Dec 3, 2023 12:10:30 GMT -5
[...] There are some non Minnesota fans suggesting a transfer out but that is sabotage; we would never get an OH as good as Landfair or Wucherer out of the portal. I can sort of understand your sentiment and all, coming during/after a down season. But really, it's not so much "sabotage", as just plain ol' needlin'. Even from we Wisconsin 'experts'. Best wishes (etc.) during the coming months and off-season. The B1G, and Bucky, need for you to succeed, play to your potential, and continue to elevate the rivalry. |
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Post by GoGophs on Dec 3, 2023 12:18:54 GMT -5
I'm hopeful we see more of this next season... we saw glimpses of Grote hitting a slide, Davis hit right side a couple times, Wuchs started hitting a D ball etc. KCook said this team needs more training in the post match interview and I think that says it all. He's a good coach and is well aware of the predictability of the offense. I think (and hope) everyone stays and he's viewing this season as preparation for the next. I expect lots and lots and lots of work in the off season to fix some of these big issues I heard the "need more training" thing as well. My thought is this is the same core of players from last year who played under Hugh and were executing a more diverse offense then. What has changed? Mel and the outsides suddenly don't know how to do this stuff anymore? Or the new system they're running they haven't fully grasped yet? I just don't quite understand. I'm hopeful some coaches can help explain it to me, because I'm just not getting it. I'm not in the gym so I can't say for sure and I could be wrong but my guess from what I'm seeing is that he is completely reworking footwork, tempo, platforms etc. Hugh was low error and quick, changing that tempo means you have to approach the ball differently. Hugh recruited players to work under this system and it may be taking them longer to adjust. And even though I'm a Shaffmaster fan, the inconsistency in set location makes it that much harder for the hitters. The change in passing technique has been the biggest change I've noticed recently. I can't remember what thread it was discussed on here but theres been a transition away from centerline passing, especially in the USA program. It used to be squaring up your feet and platform to the ball and your target. Now because serving is so much harder and you have less time to get around the ball, coaches are switching to platform angles - so reaching left and right and relying on the angle of your arms. If you watch the men's game you see a lot more angle passing because of how hard and fast the ball is. I think this might be why Z took longer to see the court and is still kind of wobbly on passing, her platform especially. Reworking something you've done since you started playing the game is going to take a while for it to become natural and requires a ton of patience. I was a libero in my playing days and had to rework my platform and it took foooorevvver to get it to a comfortable point. That's why I'm hopeful that this off season they're going to be doing a lot of work on this stuff and once it starts to click, we'll see an improvement next season🤞 - here's a good video about passing techniques |
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Dec 3, 2023 13:24:01 GMT -5
I don’t think anyone is trying to discredit Creighton. That wasn’t the point. The point was maybe cut your players a little bit of slack… for once. Season’s over and you’re already salivating at the idea of starters transferring out. Like damn. No kidding. We seem to have some toxic fans creeping into the discussion which is unfortunate. To even consider key players transferring, let alone be OK with it, is just disgraceful. |
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Post by courtwatchers on Dec 3, 2023 13:25:55 GMT -5
If someone can explain what is in Grote and Murr's arsenals that made them funcion quite nicely this season vs our returning Gophers, I would love to hear it.
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Post by skolgophers on Dec 3, 2023 13:35:04 GMT -5
That wasn’t the point. The point was maybe cut your players a little bit of slack… for once. Season’s over and you’re already salivating at the idea of starters transferring out. Like damn. No kidding. We seem to have some toxic fans creeping into the discussion which is unfortunate. To even consider key players transferring, let alone be OK with it, is just disgraceful. What about my post was toxic/disgraceful? If you look at the original post I responded to, it was regarding MNs predictable offense. So please tell me, if Wucherer entered the portal, what would you do? You can’t change their minds. Gotta move forward. Like I’m not understanding how any of that is being a toxic fan??? |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Dec 3, 2023 13:36:31 GMT -5
I heard the commentators last night say that Creighton had been doing some mental coaching as well, which I think really paid off. They played loose the whole night. I'd like to see the Gophers work on that, it could be very beneficial. I think all teams should have a sports psychologist that helps with the mental aspects of the game and life in general. |
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Post by dude1977 on Dec 3, 2023 13:58:06 GMT -5
Minnesota has the talents but could not win NCAA championship and big 10. Hired Cook and lost to 2nd round this year. Hiring from Gold medal Square mentality does not mean NCAA champions.
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Post by genej101 on Dec 3, 2023 15:10:36 GMT -5
I'm hopeful we see more of this next season... we saw glimpses of Grote hitting a slide, Davis hit right side a couple times, Wuchs started hitting a D ball etc. KCook said this team needs more training in the post match interview and I think that says it all. He's a good coach and is well aware of the predictability of the offense. I think (and hope) everyone stays and he's viewing this season as preparation for the next. I expect lots and lots and lots of work in the off season to fix some of these big issues I heard the "need more training" thing as well. My thought is this is the same core of players from last year who played under Hugh and were executing a more diverse offense then. What has changed? Mel and the outsides suddenly don't know how to do this stuff anymore? Or the new system they're running they haven't fully grasped yet? I just don't quite understand. I'm hopeful some coaches can help explain it to me, because I'm just not getting it. McKenna and Taylor used to know how to tool the block, swiping off hands, did virtually none of that all, either tried to hit into the block or more often tip everything but not to good spots. Teams picked that up from video and our tips ended up being free balls. Hugh’s offense was more varied, only real problem was using the left side hitter to cover the right side tips, rarely worked. I hope Cook can diversify the offense, get some size in the middle and increase the tempo. Worried a bit about the libero, I like Zeynep but she’s so tiny and we really need a DS in the back row too - so lots to do before next season. |
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Post by genej101 on Dec 3, 2023 15:14:34 GMT -5
That wasn’t the point. The point was maybe cut your players a little bit of slack… for once. Season’s over and you’re already salivating at the idea of starters transferring out. Like damn. Well, to be fare, no one wants players to transfer out. We lost a MB and a Libero to graduation and we have a setter and OH coming in. It doesn't match up. We are hoping to fill shortages with transfers, not transfers with transfers. I don't think a little critique or a wish list for next year is so bad. I think our talented pin hitters are underutilized. There are some non Minnesota fans suggesting a transfer out but that is sabotage; we would never get an OH as good as Landfair or Wucherer out of the portal. Good point, both were the national number one recruit as they came in. They need to fix some things but it’s not like they have no talent. We’ve undersized middles and the class coming in isn’t helping with that or the back row. Nothing wrong with thinking about next year, this one’s done. Certainly will enjoy the rest of the tournament, too bad three of the four BIG teams left are in the same bracket though. |
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