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Post by robocop21 on Feb 4, 2023 18:15:47 GMT -5
I like seeing athletes stick to their commitment... To me, the flipside of that argument is, it would be great to see a school stick to their commitment to develop an athlete instead of going to the transfer portal looking for someone better. Completely agree. This if one of those circumstances where you can’t blame her for looking elsewhere. Wonder how long until we see some big ten talent transferring to USC or UCLA since they’ll be joining here soon.
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Post by pull3 on Feb 4, 2023 19:24:53 GMT -5
Players want PT but they also want THE ring.
Wrobel is not going anywhere because she doesn't have her ring yet.
There is no point to transfer to a middle of the pack team for PT, but lose out the chance of a Championship, unless the handful of teams( you know which teams) are calling.
Orzol, on the other hand, may.
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Post by badgerbreath on Feb 4, 2023 19:26:42 GMT -5
You guys are so dramatic. Yes, the pandemic screwed up everything. Every top program has a logjam. But there are pathways for Wrobel, and not just through injury to someone else.
EG. If Wrobel can develop a knack for passing, she gets into the lineup. It’s that simple. Franklin has probably hit her ceiling. TTA has never shown in her career anything near Orzol level proficiency. Wrobel’s size on the pin, coupled with passing, might get us to the Orzol as libero scenario that Diva dreams of. TTA then goes right, which she is actually good at based on what I have seen.
Also, it’s funny how the badgers have gone from “they’ll never seriously compete for an NC” to “Whoa Nelly! Why dey be competin’ so hard?”
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
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Post by dhpapke on Feb 4, 2023 20:07:12 GMT -5
A few thoughts:
My #1 to-do for the Badgers for this year is taking advantage of Smrek and Booth.
On offense we need to set them in a way that fully uses their height and jumping ability. Sets that are perfect for Orzol are way too low for them. It’s hard to hit a kill shot on a ball that is at head-height. As much as I love watching Robinson terminate a quickie I’m even more thrilled watching Smrek destroy a quickie over the top of a near perfect block. Our setters showed progress as last season evolved. There’s no reason they can’t continue that progress.
On defense there is no reason that Smrek and Booth can’t become the MOAB (mother of all blocks) twins. They need lots of court time together to work on footwork and traffic flow. Geometry will take care of the rest.
My #2 to-do is to get the back row players healthy and improve their chemistry. In particular, they need to drill down on their traffic flow and communications. GG was an injured freshman. This year she’ll be a healthy and experienced veteran with (I hope) strong backups.
My #3 is to enhance our ability to terminate while out of system. I thought last year there were too many OOS sets that interfered with commercial jet traffic. Many of those high, slow motion sets went to a 6 foot tall hitter who was facing a double block that had all night to set up. Fixing #2 will get us part way. It’s worth looking at someone who can terminate on those OOS balls. It’s also worth asking if Julia might be more valuable in the back row as a DS and back row hitter. I’m not sure how we make that happen.
I'm very bullish on the 2023 team. There is no reason we can't start the 2023 season ahead of where we ended 2022. If we stay reasonably healthy I don't see a ceiling for this team.
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Feb 4, 2023 20:11:55 GMT -5
I really don’t see Orzol hitting the portal in the next portal season, but Wrobel I am a little more afraid of her choosing to leave. I really do think that Wrobel would have a spot her junior year & she’s at an extremely elite program, so she must be aware that she might not play until then. Just my thoughts Wrobel is not the possession of UW volleyball. If she chooses to leave for a situation that is better for her than good for her. But I don't feel like there's more data telling her she has to leave now than there was in December - TTA is a one year pickup. As opposed to Jardine who left after the additional data point of Franklin being in front of her with 3 years remaining. Ella's not going anywhere... Book it!
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Feb 4, 2023 20:20:24 GMT -5
Was at Badger coaching clinic today. Incredible to hear Coach Dildine speak about passing deficiencies at the end of season, what the genesis of the issues were, and how they're responding. Talked about things she saw, after watching every pass from every match last season. Details about what each player needed to work on and how they're addressing them.
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Post by 25or624 on Feb 4, 2023 20:52:32 GMT -5
In the context of the portal, there are so many intangibles. It would be really hard to make an informed guess about any one player's mindset [this assumes nobody who is commenting on potential Badger transfers out actually knows the player in question]. For example, who in her heart and mind is a Badger for life and can't be pried out of the Badger fold by anything or anyone? I'll take a wild guess and say Julia is one of those players, probably GG too.
The way coach Sheffield is going about his business shouldn't be a surprise to any of the players. He says repeatedly in interviews that one of his main jobs is to maximize the talent level on the roster. He also repeatedly stresses his "no promises" rule when he talks to any player about playing time . Then there is the very public mandate Chris McIntosh trotted out while "the football thing" was going on, i.e., "I expect our coaches to win Championships", later defined as Big Ten Championships. The mission couldn't be clearer.
I hope there are zero Badgers in the portal when it opens again in May (?). All signs point to a great year ahead.
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Post by stanfordvb on Feb 4, 2023 21:04:19 GMT -5
Wrobel is not going anywhere because she doesn't have her ring yet. that is just not a good take lmao. fields left texas without a ring, just like hord, blossom, gray, wenaas, akana, booth, all the way back to Lexi sun lmao. all left top programs that were consistently in the running as contenders. and all of them actually played too, which is not the case with wrobel. there's few players as good as wrobel is who would say "id continue to sit the bench for multiple years so I can hopefully watch my teammates win a natty" plenty of players even transfer from schools and programs they absolutely love but they know they're not going to see real match play in their time there. its nothing against Wisconsin, its that most of these athletes are extremely competitive and want to be on the floor, and im sure wrobel is aware there are top 10 schools who could use her right now
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Post by madden55 on Feb 4, 2023 21:12:29 GMT -5
Players want PT but they also want THE ring. Wrobel is not going anywhere because she doesn't have her ring yet. There is no point to transfer to a middle of the pack team for PT, but lose out the chance of a Championship, unless the handful of teams( you know which teams) are calling. Orzol, on the other hand, may. what do you mean “no point” how do you know that all she cares about is a ring lol? I’m sure she wants one but I’m also sure she’d like to play
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Post by badgerbreath on Feb 4, 2023 22:45:54 GMT -5
Was at Badger coaching clinic today. Incredible to hear Coach Dildine speak about passing deficiencies at the end of season, what the genesis of the issues were, and how they're responding. Talked about things she saw, after watching every pass from every match last season. Details about what each player needed to work on and how they're addressing them. This is a tease! What was the genesis? How are they responding? What are the details?
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Feb 4, 2023 23:25:22 GMT -5
Was at Badger coaching clinic today. Incredible to hear Coach Dildine speak about passing deficiencies at the end of season, what the genesis of the issues were, and how they're responding. Talked about things she saw, after watching every pass from every match last season. Details about what each player needed to work on and how they're addressing them. This is a tease! What was the genesis? How are they responding? What are the details? Nutshell... 1. Specifically at the end of the season Badgers didn't respond well when team's changed up where serves were going every time. 2. Were especially getting eaten up when serves were higher and deeper. 3. Emphasis in spring practices on drills regarding footwork, body positioning, and technique to mitigate the issues.
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Post by badgerbreath on Feb 4, 2023 23:39:40 GMT -5
This is a tease! What was the genesis? How are they responding? What are the details? Nutshell... 1. Specifically at the end of the season Badgers didn't respond well when team's changed up where serves were going every time. 2. Were especially getting eaten up when serves were higher and deeper. 3. Emphasis in spring practices on drills regarding footwork, body positioning, and technique to mitigate the issues. Yeah, I noticed this problem with serves high on the platform. Good to hear they are dealing with it. GG is smaller than your average badger libero. I hope she can adjust. They need to be able to adjust to different planes too. Teams try different things as the match wears on, and I didn't think we generally adjusted that well when opposing teams served to different planes during a match. I always feel like that comfort in adjusting comes last.
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Post by pull3 on Feb 5, 2023 7:12:19 GMT -5
Wrobel is not going anywhere because she doesn't have her ring yet. that is just not a good take lmao. fields left texas without a ring, just like hord, blossom, gray, wenaas, akana, booth, all the way back to Lexi sun lmao. all left top programs that were consistently in the running as contenders. and all of them actually played too, which is not the case with wrobel. there's few players as good as wrobel is who would say "id continue to sit the bench for multiple years so I can hopefully watch my teammates win a natty" plenty of players even transfer from schools and programs they absolutely love but they know they're not going to see real match play in their time there. its nothing against Wisconsin, its that most of these athletes are extremely competitive and want to be on the floor, and im sure wrobel is aware there are top 10 schools who could use her right now
Don't quote my "half" post. Now go read again and check your list of players.
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Post by stanfordvb on Feb 5, 2023 16:24:23 GMT -5
that is just not a good take lmao. fields left texas without a ring, just like hord, blossom, gray, wenaas, akana, booth, all the way back to Lexi sun lmao. all left top programs that were consistently in the running as contenders. and all of them actually played too, which is not the case with wrobel. there's few players as good as wrobel is who would say "id continue to sit the bench for multiple years so I can hopefully watch my teammates win a natty" plenty of players even transfer from schools and programs they absolutely love but they know they're not going to see real match play in their time there. its nothing against Wisconsin, its that most of these athletes are extremely competitive and want to be on the floor, and im sure wrobel is aware there are top 10 schools who could use her right now
Don't quote my "half" post. Now go read again and check your list of players.
ill check my list again then... pitt was not what they are now before gray transferred, and blossom did not go to San Diego realistically with her eyes set on a natty, and fields obviously left a top team. but you want to get into players who have left teams going for rings that DIDNT play? ya know bc wrobel doesnt play.... well thats a much longer list. at this point it looks like wrobel at the earliest gets a spot in 2025, since orzol and Franklin are there through 2024, pretty sure Franklin has the covid year an can play in 2025 if she wants. by then wrobel is a senior. the fact youre so sure that a player wouldn't want to leave just bc their teammates haven't won a natty yet just doesnt make sense. you think demos would've stayed at wisco through her final two year playing here and there if they didn't win in 2021? I dont
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Post by Kearney Kingston on Feb 5, 2023 16:29:31 GMT -5
Franklin can’t play in ‘25. She played in four non-Covid years.
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