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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 15:38:28 GMT -5
I like can totally understand why people are completely up in arms and disapproving it but at the same time it’s like maybe she’ll be really good at it and that would be an awesome legacy to continue the tradition there. Idk I kinda like it for some reason but I get why it’s kinda crazy too I genuinely hope she succeeds wildly bc obv that’s a much more interesting outcome. No reason to want her to fail, it just feels a bit too “ok I’ve seen this before” to me. I know nothing about field hockey but damn it seems like she won more accolades in her sport than even Plummer did in ours. Now I know that doesn’t translate into being a good coach all the time but her list of awards and titles is CRAZY lol |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Feb 8, 2023 15:41:08 GMT -5
I genuinely hope she succeeds wildly bc obv that’s a much more interesting outcome. No reason to want her to fail, it just feels a bit too “ok I’ve seen this before” to me. I know nothing about field hockey but damn it seems like she won more accolades in her sport than even Plummer did in ours. Now I know that doesn’t translate into being a good coach all the time but her list of awards and titles is CRAZY lol Totally - playing a sport and coaching a sport are two very diff things. She could be an amazing strategist, but she has zero people management experience. Almost all of coaching is relationships. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 15:42:25 GMT -5
I know nothing about field hockey but damn it seems like she won more accolades in her sport than even Plummer did in ours. Now I know that doesn’t translate into being a good coach all the time but her list of awards and titles is CRAZY lol Totally - playing a sport and coaching a sport are two very diff things. She could be an amazing strategist, but she has zero people management experience. Almost all of coaching is relationships. is she like the undisputed goat of field hockey in the ncaa ? Reading her playing resume idk how someone coulda done more lmao |
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Post by bvolley17 on Feb 8, 2023 15:45:55 GMT -5
Totally - playing a sport and coaching a sport are two very diff things. She could be an amazing strategist, but she has zero people management experience. Almost all of coaching is relationships. is she like the undisputed goat of field hockey in the ncaa ? Reading her playing resume idk how someone coulda done more lmao She is widely referred to as the GOAT of NCAA Field Hockey. Also, several people at USA Field Hockey said she's arguably the best player on the national team or at least best player for the future, too. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 15:49:37 GMT -5
is she like the undisputed goat of field hockey in the ncaa ? Reading her playing resume idk how someone coulda done more lmao She is widely referred to as the GOAT of NCAA Field Hockey. Also, several people at USA Field Hockey said she's arguably the best player on the national team or at least best player for the future, too. idk anytbing about national team FH but does her taking this job mean she isn’t on the nt anymore ? |
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Post by bvolley17 on Feb 8, 2023 15:52:36 GMT -5
She is widely referred to as the GOAT of NCAA Field Hockey. Also, several people at USA Field Hockey said she's arguably the best player on the national team or at least best player for the future, too. idk anytbing about national team FH but does her taking this job mean she isn’t on the nt anymore ? When I spoke to someone I know at Field Hockey when I was at a conference, this essentially retires her from the national team. Not everyone has been happy with this announcement. Ha! I wonder if some of the discussion with Bubba surrounded her ability to keep playing for the national team. But an Olympic Games would conflict with summer conditioning and preseason. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 15:53:45 GMT -5
idk anytbing about national team FH but does her taking this job mean she isn’t on the nt anymore ? When I spoke to someone I know at Field Hockey when I was at a conference, this essentially retires her from the national team. Not everyone has been happy with this announcement. Ha! I wonder if some of the discussion with Bubba surrounded her ability to keep playing for the national team. But an Olympic Games would conflict with summer conditioning and preseason. huh. Well that almost makes me feel like she’s a better pick than it looks from the outside is that if she’s that dedicated to coaching she’d give up a chance at the Olympics and her playing career for it |
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Post by jcvball22 on Feb 8, 2023 16:01:22 GMT -5
When I spoke to someone I know at Field Hockey when I was at a conference, this essentially retires her from the national team. Not everyone has been happy with this announcement. Ha! I wonder if some of the discussion with Bubba surrounded her ability to keep playing for the national team. But an Olympic Games would conflict with summer conditioning and preseason. huh. Well that almost makes me feel like she’s a better pick than it looks from the outside is that if she’s that dedicated to coaching she’d give up a chance at the Olympics and her playing career for it To be fair, the US isn't really a top contender in Women's Field Hockey (or Men's, for that matter) and would not realistically be likely to medal in an Olympics. I grew up in Field Hockey Mecca and the US has not ever really been on the upper end of the international stage in the sport. On a side note: I tried field hockey for about two weeks until someone told me I had to wear a skirt and couldn't hit anyone with the stick. I noped my way right out of there. Also, really not a sport for tall people  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 16:02:40 GMT -5
huh. Well that almost makes me feel like she’s a better pick than it looks from the outside is that if she’s that dedicated to coaching she’d give up a chance at the Olympics and her playing career for it To be fair, the US isn't really a top contender in Women's Field Hockey (or Men's, for that matter) and would not realistically be likely to medal in an Olympics. I grew up in Field Hockey Mecca and the US has not ever really been on the upper end of the international stage in the sport. On a side note: I tried field hockey for about two weeks until someone told me I had to wear a skirt and couldn't hit anyone with the stick. I noped my way right out of there. Also, really not a sport for tall people there’s men’s field hockey ? |
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Post by jcvball22 on Feb 8, 2023 16:04:17 GMT -5
To be fair, the US isn't really a top contender in Women's Field Hockey (or Men's, for that matter) and would not realistically be likely to medal in an Olympics. I grew up in Field Hockey Mecca and the US has not ever really been on the upper end of the international stage in the sport. On a side note: I tried field hockey for about two weeks until someone told me I had to wear a skirt and couldn't hit anyone with the stick. I noped my way right out of there. Also, really not a sport for tall people there’s men’s field hockey ? Fun Fact: we are one of the only countries where Field Hockey is a primarily female sport. High-level Men's Field Hockey, especially at the international level, is INCREDIBLE. It's such a fast-moving sport. They play on watered down astro turf and that ball FLIES. |
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Post by bgoode on Feb 8, 2023 16:51:47 GMT -5
I like can totally understand why people are completely up in arms and disapproving it but at the same time it’s like maybe she’ll be really good at it and that would be an awesome legacy to continue the tradition there. Idk I kinda like it for some reason but I get why it’s kinda crazy too I genuinely hope she succeeds wildly bc obv that’s a much more interesting outcome. No reason to want her to fail, it just feels a bit too “ok I’ve seen this before” to me. Don’t know if it has been mentioned but now-retired UNC FH Coach Shelton had the same or similar stellar career (West Chester State) then was hired at 23 as HC- that turned out pretty well. So I agree it’s crazy but ballsy, optimistic, loyal and a great story. If it doesn’t work then they were wrong or things just went wrong- but if it does…. I think they took a calculated risk because they believe she has the potential to do more than she’s already done and they want that to happen in CH. There are things you just can’t teach a player, and there are things you just can’t teach a coach. Maybe she’s got it! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 16:58:53 GMT -5
I genuinely hope she succeeds wildly bc obv that’s a much more interesting outcome. No reason to want her to fail, it just feels a bit too “ok I’ve seen this before” to me. Don’t know if it has been mentioned but now-retired UNC FH Coach Shelton had the same or similar stellar career at UNC, then was hired at 23 as HC- that turned out pretty well. So I agree it’s crazy but ballsy, optimistic, loyal and a great story. If it doesn’t work then they were wrong or things just went wrong- but if it does…. I think they took a calculated risk because they believe she has the potential to do more than she’s already done and they want that to happen in CH. There are things you just can’t teach a player, and there are things you just can’t teach a coach. Maybe she’s got it! pretty sure that coach didn’t play at unc |
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Post by bgoode on Feb 8, 2023 17:10:09 GMT -5
Don’t know if it has been mentioned but now-retired UNC FH Coach Shelton had the same or similar stellar career at UNC, then was hired at 23 as HC- that turned out pretty well. So I agree it’s crazy but ballsy, optimistic, loyal and a great story. If it doesn’t work then they were wrong or things just went wrong- but if it does…. I think they took a calculated risk because they believe she has the potential to do more than she’s already done and they want that to happen in CH. There are things you just can’t teach a player, and there are things you just can’t teach a coach. Maybe she’s got it! pretty sure that coach didn’t play at unc Thanks for clarifying; I did look that up and meant to delete the “UNC” so I will now if edits allow. But my point was about her similar college success, her age when hired and her subsequent career success. |
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Post by vbshrink on Feb 8, 2023 17:28:53 GMT -5
To be fair, the US isn't really a top contender in Women's Field Hockey (or Men's, for that matter) and would not realistically be likely to medal in an Olympics. I grew up in Field Hockey Mecca and the US has not ever really been on the upper end of the international stage in the sport. On a side note: I tried field hockey for about two weeks until someone told me I had to wear a skirt and couldn't hit anyone with the stick. I noped my way right out of there. Also, really not a sport for tall people there’s men’s field hockey ? It started as a men's sport, hundreds of years ago (at least versions of it). Women didn't start playing until the late 19th century. A woman introduced the sport in America, so it's mostly been a women's sport here, but in Europe and Asia, it's like soccer - played by both men and women. |
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Post by oldhead on Feb 8, 2023 17:40:51 GMT -5
Not saying I disagree just highlighting the Joe/Eve relationship since she left and the entire UNC staff went with her... Joe cannot be mad at her for that. She left for a promotion. He refused to promote Tyler because he was bringing in Mike as the first assistant. So, Tyler also left for a promotion. And he knew if Eve was leaving Gavin was leaving. That is ridiculous if that is what he's upset about. He cannot be mad at people leaving for promotions if he's not willing to advance them. I heard it from multiple people that Tyler wanted to stay at UNC but Joe refused to give him the jump. I'm not sure if she did anything else to burn bridges though. But I do remember a lot of the former players were very vocal in their support of Eve when she was named the head coach at Tennessee, and we lost a lot of players after she left. So she may be edgy, but it's hard to argue against the players liking her. Tyler did want to stay. But you don’t put Tyler ahead of Mike. Tyler didn’t really like that. Timing doesn’t always work out. Jen Petrie would love to come back but she’s long rooted back home in San Diego. Timing doesn’t always work out. |
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