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Post by vbman100 on Jan 20, 2023 16:44:32 GMT -5
Oh, excuse me, Florida decided to "not allow" it, I shall change my original comment to be more "accurate" Direct quote- "the content of this course is inexplicably contrary to Florida law and significantly lacks educational value,” the department’s office of articulation, which oversees accelerated programs for high school students, wrote on Jan. 12." Yes! Thank you for exactly proving my point, you are sharing absolute nonsense in hopes of making your argument stronger and get people riled up that ignorantly believe it and do not do their own research. You then willingly choose to put something in quotes while blatantly ignoring the context that said when they come back with a better curriculum it would be re evaluated. You are exactly the problem that we are facing, people like you will push your bias and actually encourage racism and outrage when you do things like that. Do you not understand how irresponsible that is, and how little it does to help or improve the situation? You did compare the idea of not having the Final Four for volleyball in Florida with people coming with pitchforks, so I wouldn't say you are the example of not using hyperbole to bolster an argument... MODERN DAY Coach. |
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Post by hornshouse23 on Jan 20, 2023 16:46:50 GMT -5
Would love to see a lot of our social policy complainers run and operate their own business. I guarantee a lot of their politics would change in a heartbeat. so, by your thinking, someone that reaps the benefits of capitalism will/has to be homophobic and racist? I mean sure, sometimes they go hand in hand with people, like our last president, but I’m not sure why starting a business and being worried about laws relating to business would affect someone’s stance on human rights… but that’s very much a topic for off the net I’ll bake this person a cake, I guess. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 20, 2023 16:47:25 GMT -5
I'll take your lame attempt at claiming sarcasm for being called out blatantly sharing false information and inciting racism based on your personal bias. Still doesn't change that you and others that do exactly what you just tried are part of the larger problem. "the larger problem"? Do share. |
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 20, 2023 16:48:19 GMT -5
Yes! Thank you for exactly proving my point, you are sharing absolute nonsense in hopes of making your argument stronger and get people riled up that ignorantly believe it and do not do their own research. You then willingly choose to put something in quotes while blatantly ignoring the context that said when they come back with a better curriculum it would be re evaluated. You are exactly the problem that we are facing, people like you will push your bias and actually encourage racism and outrage when you do things like that. Do you not understand how irresponsible that is, and how little it does to help or improve the situation? You did compare the idea of not having the Final Four for volleyball in Florida with people coming with pitchforks, so I wouldn't say you are the example of not using hyperbole to bolster an argument... MODERN DAY Coach. You do realize those on both sides of the political spectrum use the manipulation of those who don't care to learn on their own, or are easily outraged, to do exactly this. If you drum up enough dismay over lies/exaggerations that are being perpetrated, you will in fact wind up with large sect coming in outrage to do exactly that. |
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Post by jammaster on Jan 20, 2023 16:48:28 GMT -5
This thread is terrible, bye.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 20, 2023 16:50:43 GMT -5
I'll take your lame attempt at claiming sarcasm for being called out blatantly sharing false information and inciting racism based on your personal bias. Still doesn't change that you and others that do exactly what you just tried are part of the larger problem. "the larger problem"? Do share. Those who blatantly lie or exaggerate truths in hopes of inciting anger and division are the larger problem. What is the point, of saying something was "banned" when that literally is not the case at all, other than to rile people up in hopes they get just as angered as you are over misinformation? |
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Post by uofastudent on Jan 20, 2023 16:55:24 GMT -5
you really didn’t address my question at all but thank you for the tangent. Biden and Kamala wouldn’t have been either of my first choices, and I didn’t vote for Biden in the primaries, but there’s a list of a trillion things I’d do before voting for Trump. Is there any way, without a mod coming down on all of us, to move this conversation to off the net? It’s only a matter of time before the mod with The Rock avatar comes and either locks the thread or moves it himself, while putting some on timeout lol. No, I addressed the fact that you tried to lump in personal bias and ignorant blanket stereotypes with those who benefit from capitalism and/or own and operate a business while comically lumping in the people you did in fact vote for that have decimated businesses and encouraged taking away basic human rights. If you owned a business and were forced to vax or wear a mask against your will, or force your patrons to vax or wear a mask to enter your establishment, your basic human rights were violated and you encountered inhibitions that prohibited you from successfully running a business long past any of it was "necessary". how else am I supposed to take a comment like that? that was pretty clear they were saying “if you had a business, your position would change”, when the positions being discussed are about human rights. minorities having rights has nothing to do with other people that aren’t the minorities. not being masked or wearing a mask in the middle of a pandemic absolutely does affect others. policies on laws involving business have nothing to do with the policies being discussed in this thread, about the rights and history of minority groups. |
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Jan 20, 2023 17:07:40 GMT -5
Would love to see a lot of our social policy complainers run and operate their own business. I guarantee a lot of their politics would change in a heartbeat. Hmmmm. My partner runs a business in Madison, Wisconsin. If he stated that African-American studies is an invalid academic topic and/or "Don't say Gay" in his business, he would lose 75% of customers and 100% of his employees. |
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 20, 2023 17:19:01 GMT -5
No, I addressed the fact that you tried to lump in personal bias and ignorant blanket stereotypes with those who benefit from capitalism and/or own and operate a business while comically lumping in the people you did in fact vote for that have decimated businesses and encouraged taking away basic human rights. If you owned a business and were forced to vax or wear a mask against your will, or force your patrons to vax or wear a mask to enter your establishment, your basic human rights were violated and you encountered inhibitions that prohibited you from successfully running a business long past any of it was "necessary". how else am I supposed to take a comment like that? that was pretty clear they were saying “if you had a business, your position would change”, when the positions being discussed are about human rights. minorities having rights has nothing to do with other people that aren’t the minorities. not being masked or wearing a mask in the middle of a pandemic absolutely does affect others. policies on laws involving business have nothing to do with the policies being discussed in this thread, about the rights and history of minority groups. Once again you guys are just proving my point about faux outrage and what it can do to those who are too ignorant to do their own research or educate themselves before participating in the outrage. "so, by your thinking, someone that reaps the benefits of capitalism will/has to be homophobic and racist?"You said this, no one ever brought up being homophobic, nor did anyone say being republican automatically means you are racist and homophobic, you are generalizing stereotypes based off your personal bias and opinion. If we have learned anything over the last 4 years it is that under republican policy you had an easier path to run a business and be profitable. We are talking about wanting a final four pulled over a denied curriculum that would have left way too much room for personal ideologies to be shared, and was requested that the curriculum be reformed and presented again, that was the entire basis of this conversation. You brought up being homophobic and basic human rights, while stereotyping them in with a political party and those who associate or favor policies. Even you yourself, said you don't like and didn't vote for the current administration yet still voted for them when it mattered. Under your logic you could be thrown under blanket of accusations and stereotypes attached with decades of sh*tty democratic policies that likely go against your core values. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 20, 2023 17:25:08 GMT -5
"the larger problem"? Do share. Those who blatantly lie or exaggerate truths in hopes of inciting anger and division are the larger problem. What is the point, of saying something was "banned" when that literally is not the case at all, other than to rile people up in hopes they get just as angered as you are over misinformation? Got it. For a hot second I thought you were referring to the quote from the Florida Department of Education, but you clarified that you are actually only referring to positions you don't agree with. |
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 20, 2023 17:26:38 GMT -5
Would love to see a lot of our social policy complainers run and operate their own business. I guarantee a lot of their politics would change in a heartbeat. Hmmmm. My partner runs a business in Madison, Wisconsin. If he stated that African-American studies is an invalid academic topic and/or "Don't say Gay" in his business, he would lose 75% of customers and 100% of his employees. No one said it is an invalid academic topic, and his opponents are the ones that labeled it "don't say gay". The bill is that K-3 classrooms are not allowed to teach sexual orientation because the simple fact kids are not mature or cognitive enough to understand what they are being taught. Once again, examples of exaggerations of truth meant to incite outrage and division come to light time and time again. Think about the first time you were taught sex ed, was it before 5th grade? Likely not. I think it is completely fair for kids that young to have their parents decide if it is appropriate or not for them to be learning that, and if they think so it should be a conversation they have at home rather than having a completely biased teacher, one way or the other, pushing their own ideologies on your child that then will come home with a litany of questions or misunderstandings. |
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Post by uofastudent on Jan 20, 2023 17:30:14 GMT -5
Once again you guys are just proving my point about faux outrage and what it can do to those who are too ignorant to do their own research or educate themselves before participating in the outrage. "so, by your thinking, someone that reaps the benefits of capitalism will/has to be homophobic and racist?"You said this, no one ever brought up being homophobic, nor did anyone say being republican automatically means you are racist and homophobic, you are generalizing stereotypes based off your personal bias and opinion. If we have learned anything over the last 4 years it is that under republican policy you had an easier path to run a business and be profitable. We are talking about wanting a final four pulled over a denied curriculum that would have left way too much room for personal ideologies to be shared, and was requested that the curriculum be reformed and presented again, that was the entire basis of this conversation. You brought up being homophobic and basic human rights, while stereotyping them in with a political party and those who associate or favor policies. Even you yourself, said you don't like and didn't vote for the current administration yet still voted for them when it mattered. Under your logic you could be thrown under blanket of accusations and stereotypes attached with decades of sh*tty democratic policies that likely go against your core values. one of the policies being discussed in the very first post was the don’t say gay bill, which is inherently homophobic. that’s who mentioned being homophobic. the guys response was to the thread, which was again, discussing that bill and why they think the final four shouldn’t be there because of that bill and one other. the person responded with a comment about how peoples opinions would change if they started a business. all I was asking if why my opinion on human rights would change if I started a business? especially relating to those two bills mentioned. |
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Post by n00b on Jan 20, 2023 17:47:23 GMT -5
the don’t say gay bill, which is inherently homophobic. I don’t really follow Florida politics. What does this bill do? |
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Post by hornshouse23 on Jan 20, 2023 18:18:48 GMT -5
Hmmmm. My partner runs a business in Madison, Wisconsin. If he stated that African-American studies is an invalid academic topic and/or "Don't say Gay" in his business, he would lose 75% of customers and 100% of his employees. No one said it is an invalid academic topic, and his opponents are the ones that labeled it "don't say gay". The bill is that K-3 classrooms are not allowed to teach sexual orientation because the simple fact kids are not mature or cognitive enough to understand what they are being taught. Once again, examples of exaggerations of truth meant to incite outrage and division come to light time and time again. Think about the first time you were taught sex ed, was it before 5th grade? Likely not. I think it is completely fair for kids that young to have their parents decide if it is appropriate or not for them to be learning that, and if they think so it should be a conversation they have at home rather than having a completely biased teacher, one way or the other, pushing their own ideologies on your child that then will come home with a litany of questions or misunderstandings. I’m confused about your interpretation about the bill, and it’s intention, by your own response. They needed to legislate sex education for grades k-3… but then you admit that sex Ed isn’t happening in those grades anyway. So the bill isn’t meant to solve a problem because… there isn’t one. You can dance in circles around it if you want, but it’s a direct message to the lgbtq community from the Florida legislature. On a different note, I love when people come onto Al gore’s internet and show their entire asses. It’s quite comical |
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 20, 2023 18:25:28 GMT -5
Once again you guys are just proving my point about faux outrage and what it can do to those who are too ignorant to do their own research or educate themselves before participating in the outrage. "so, by your thinking, someone that reaps the benefits of capitalism will/has to be homophobic and racist?"You said this, no one ever brought up being homophobic, nor did anyone say being republican automatically means you are racist and homophobic, you are generalizing stereotypes based off your personal bias and opinion. If we have learned anything over the last 4 years it is that under republican policy you had an easier path to run a business and be profitable. We are talking about wanting a final four pulled over a denied curriculum that would have left way too much room for personal ideologies to be shared, and was requested that the curriculum be reformed and presented again, that was the entire basis of this conversation. You brought up being homophobic and basic human rights, while stereotyping them in with a political party and those who associate or favor policies. Even you yourself, said you don't like and didn't vote for the current administration yet still voted for them when it mattered. Under your logic you could be thrown under blanket of accusations and stereotypes attached with decades of sh*tty democratic policies that likely go against your core values. one of the policies being discussed in the very first post was the don’t say gay bill, which is inherently homophobic. that’s who mentioned being homophobic. the guys response was to the thread, which was again, discussing that bill and why they think the final four shouldn’t be there because of that bill and one other. the person responded with a comment about how peoples opinions would change if they started a business. all I was asking if why my opinion on human rights would change if I started a business? especially relating to those two bills mentioned. Once again, you prove you have fallen victim to your own party misinforming you. The democrats and opponents of Desantis are the ones who named it the don't say gay bill. It is not even called that, the bill aims to prevent kids in kindergarten through third grade from learning about sexual orientation and the topics involved because they are not cognitivley advanced or mature enough to understand what they are being taught. Instead of spouting off nonsense and repeating falsities, do a little of your own homework. |
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