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Post by spikerthemovie on Jan 20, 2023 13:46:32 GMT -5
With "Don't say gay" and now coming out against advanced placement Black history in schools, there is no way the tourney should be dropping money in Florida or that athletes should have to go there.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 20, 2023 13:48:33 GMT -5
With "Don't say gay" and now coming out against advanced placement Black history in schools, there is no way the tourney should be dropping money in Florida or that athletes should have to go there. Leave your politics at home, there are volleyball fans in Florida too. If you want to join the political discussion go argue with the left/right extremist crazies over at off the net.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Jan 20, 2023 13:53:04 GMT -5
With "Don't say gay" and now coming out against advanced placement Black history in schools, there is no way the tourney should be dropping money in Florida or that athletes should have to go there. Leave your politics at home, there are volleyball fans in Florida too. If you want to join the political discussion go argue with the left/right extremist crazies over at off the net. It's not "extremist" to comment on the radical changes being carried out in Florida's k-12 and higher education, and their intended effects on universities, professors, students and student-athletes.
Saying nothing is actually saying something, too..."This is fine with me." So is that the message from the NCAA and AVCA?
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Post by OHVBKING on Jan 20, 2023 13:54:11 GMT -5
NCAA needs to stay out of politics. Volleyball has a rich history in the Tampa and Central Florida area. The "Cancel Culture" needs to take a hike.
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Post by Winbabywin on Jan 20, 2023 13:54:32 GMT -5
Shut your pie hole! Looking forward to warm weather for once, for a Final 4
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Post by socalvbhomer on Jan 20, 2023 13:59:22 GMT -5
Oh boy.. Eliminating opinions different from yours is radical and dangerous
Leave VT for volleyball
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Post by huskergopher on Jan 20, 2023 14:06:40 GMT -5
I hate 90% of the responses to this thread. Burn it.
Also, Tampa sucks.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 20, 2023 14:08:13 GMT -5
Leave your politics at home, there are volleyball fans in Florida too. If you want to join the political discussion go argue with the left/right extremist crazies over at off the net. It's not "extremist" to comment on the radical changes being carried out in Florida's k-12 and higher education, and their intended effects on universities, professors, students and student-athletes.
Saying nothing is actually saying something, too..."This is fine with me." So is that the message from the NCAA and AVCA?
Didn't say they were extremists for pointing out politics they don't care for or have been lead to believe are happening in Florida, just that they could go join the extremist nutjobs over on off the net. However, I could see how you may think of them for being an extremist for wanting to move an entire championship series over something they don't like, because that does sound bonkers. People use playing and watching sports as an escape from things they already have to deal with everyday in life. There is little to no reason to start inciting a riot or revolt that could potentially hinder us getting to watch the pinnacle event in our sport as we are all pretty big fans. You could go state by state and start listing problems and reasons to not have volleyball there. -Minnesota has one of the most notable police killings in recent memory, why did Minnesota not boycott volleyball until that dude is dead? -California is now arresting shop owners that have repeatedly called about a homeless person flinging poop at people when they walk by and yelling at them yet when they took it into their own hands they finally responded, they also forced unconstitutional lockdowns and mask requirements while their politicians didn't follow a single rule and made excuses when caught, why are we still playing volleyball there? -Nebraska is one of the most reliable republican states there is, backing a democratic president only once since 1936, yet I would vote to have the final four there every year in perpetuity due to the turnout and environment they provide. Just saying leave your political bias and hypocrisy at home or within off the net and enjoy the game we all love.
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Post by eotexas5 on Jan 20, 2023 14:22:00 GMT -5
It's not "extremist" to comment on the radical changes being carried out in Florida's k-12 and higher education, and their intended effects on universities, professors, students and student-athletes.
Saying nothing is actually saying something, too..."This is fine with me." So is that the message from the NCAA and AVCA?
Didn't say they were extremists for pointing out politics they don't care for or have been lead to believe are happening in Florida, just that they could go join the extremist nutjobs over on off the net. However, I could see how you may think of them for being an extremist for wanting to move an entire championship series over something they don't like, because that does sound bonkers. People use playing and watching sports as an escape from things they already have to deal with everyday in life. There is little to no reason to start inciting a riot or revolt that could potentially hinder us getting to watch the pinnacle event in our sport as we are all pretty big fans. You could go state by state and start listing problems and reasons to not have volleyball there. -Minnesota has one of the most notable police killings in recent memory, why did Minnesota not boycott volleyball until that dude is dead? -California is now arresting shop owners that have repeatedly called about a homeless person flinging poop at people when they walk by and yelling at them yet when they took it into their own hands they finally responded, they also forced unconstitutional lockdowns and mask requirements while their politicians didn't follow a single rule and made excuses when caught, why are we still playing volleyball there? -Nebraska is one of the most reliable republican states there is, backing a democratic president only once since 1936, yet I would vote to have the final four there every year in perpetuity due to the turnout and environment they provide. Just saying leave your political bias and hypocrisy at home or within off the net and enjoy the game we all love. Nebraska stinks and I would vote to never have it in that state ever again if it was up to me. <3
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Post by huskergopher on Jan 20, 2023 14:37:04 GMT -5
Didn't say they were extremists for pointing out politics they don't care for or have been lead to believe are happening in Florida, just that they could go join the extremist nutjobs over on off the net. However, I could see how you may think of them for being an extremist for wanting to move an entire championship series over something they don't like, because that does sound bonkers. People use playing and watching sports as an escape from things they already have to deal with everyday in life. There is little to no reason to start inciting a riot or revolt that could potentially hinder us getting to watch the pinnacle event in our sport as we are all pretty big fans. You could go state by state and start listing problems and reasons to not have volleyball there. -Minnesota has one of the most notable police killings in recent memory, why did Minnesota not boycott volleyball until that dude is dead? -California is now arresting shop owners that have repeatedly called about a homeless person flinging poop at people when they walk by and yelling at them yet when they took it into their own hands they finally responded, they also forced unconstitutional lockdowns and mask requirements while their politicians didn't follow a single rule and made excuses when caught, why are we still playing volleyball there? -Nebraska is one of the most reliable republican states there is, backing a democratic president only once since 1936, yet I would vote to have the final four there every year in perpetuity due to the turnout and environment they provide. Just saying leave your political bias and hypocrisy at home or within off the net and enjoy the game we all love. Nebraska stinks and I would vote to never have it in that state ever again if it was up to me. <3 As someone who grew up there, I concur. It's nice to have an excuse to visit family, though.
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Post by ay2013 on Jan 20, 2023 15:36:46 GMT -5
With "Don't say gay" and now coming out against advanced placement Black history in schools, there is no way the tourney should be dropping money in Florida or that athletes should have to go there. Yep. I'm personally a bit tired of the people whining about bringing "politics" into a conversation. Being against state-sponsored racism is not "political".
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jan 20, 2023 15:41:55 GMT -5
ok, cities where we can have final fours where the laws are really really good:
Chicago, Detroit, New York, Boston, Seattle, Portland, New Orleans
this is why the final four should be in Vegas every year!!!
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Post by slxpress on Jan 20, 2023 15:53:28 GMT -5
With "Don't say gay" and now coming out against advanced placement Black history in schools, there is no way the tourney should be dropping money in Florida or that athletes should have to go there. Yep. I'm personally a bit tired of the people whining about bringing "politics" into a conversation. Being against state-sponsored racism is not "political". I mean, it’s definitely political. No doubt about that. Doesn’t mean it can’t be a topic for discussion. That’s a separate issue. I read an article a couple of days ago about the economic impact on Arizona for being so late to adopt MLK day. It was substantial. I’m unconvinced the state legislature passes a law dedicating it as a state recognized holiday without that economic pressure. That’s for sure political. When organizations threaten states with boycotts for passing transgender unfriendly laws - particularly laws regarding public restrooms - and that has an impact on whether the legislation passes or not, that’s political. What I will say is whether people find the opposite view palatable to listen to or not, there are reasons for having strongly held beliefs. When both sides demonize the other with short hand phrases like racism, it pretty much ends the conversation. The social conservatives are just as bad, if not worse. I don’t know how one can feasibly be tolerant about intolerance. That sounds like a recipe for disaster. But we need to be engaging in more discussions, and fewer shouting matches while waving torches and pitchforks. I’m unconvinced volleytalk is the place where it occurs, but it should be happening somewhere.
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Post by hipsterfilth on Jan 20, 2023 16:03:36 GMT -5
I mean, I agree - our ability to exist in a spoken sentence should not be political, but alas, someone else has made it political. Not sure how only a rebuttal can be considered "making things political". When you're from a protected class, your very existence is by definition, political.
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Post by OHVBKING on Jan 20, 2023 16:04:36 GMT -5
Would love to see a lot of our social policy complainers run and operate their own business. I guarantee a lot of their politics would change in a heartbeat.
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