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Post by nonathleticperson on Sept 17, 2023 3:08:08 GMT -5
Canada cant expect to go any farther without a M2 and an OH2.
The Bailey and Cross injuries effectively ended any chance at us making the Olympics (and I dont even like Cross...)
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Post by HandeBallerdın on Sept 17, 2023 3:17:37 GMT -5
Hey Belgium!
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Sept 17, 2023 5:46:07 GMT -5
Canada cant expect to go any farther without a M2 and an OH2. The Bailey and Cross injuries effectively ended any chance at us making the Olympics (and I dont even like Cross...) well, as cai bin demonstrates, you can get pretty far without an OH2... |
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Post by bzo on Sept 17, 2023 6:39:11 GMT -5
updated point scenarios (estimated) ... DOM 3-2: +/- 3.006 FIVB has updated the ranking page now and actual change of ranking points for this match is +/- 2.13. Calculating the 3-2 result with match weight factor (MWF) = 25 instead of MWF = 35 gives estimated pts +/- 2.15 so I think it's obvious now that FIVB has lowered the MWF to 25 for the OQT tournament. ( onecompiler.com/python/3zmtnzyxm here's a editable Python script I wrote for the calculation with MWF set to 25 for OQT in case someone is interested in running some other tests. Change the values on line 6-8 to calculate it for other matches.) |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Sept 17, 2023 6:41:21 GMT -5
Canada you make me sad
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Sept 17, 2023 7:39:44 GMT -5
Where is Bricio? Injured?
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Post by dodger on Sept 17, 2023 10:05:36 GMT -5
Not exactly: slot 1) host : slots 2 through 7 (6 slots) to first and second from the 3 IOQT’s: next 5 go to the top 5 world ranked teams( see FIVB to a teams rank): there is one caveat to this ranking: every continent must have a team: so for example in African Continent doesnt qualify in this IOQT: the top ranked team from Aftica gets one of those five slots. And the 2024 VNL is the last and a major way for teams to affect their world ranking! Well, that's just the details. Two top teams from each pool will qualify. And normally the World Cup is the first opportunity to get a ticket to the Olympics...except this year. So what I said is correct.  not exactly: each continent must receive an olympic bid: and if not mistaken there was no African continent team in vnl? And this isnt the first year World champion isnt ised for qualifying: The 2019 FIVB Women's World Cup was the 13th edition of the event, contested by the senior women's national teams of the members of the Fédération Internationale de Volleyball (FIVB), the sport's global governing body. The tournament was held from 14 to 29 September 2019 in Japan.[1] This was the first time that the FIVB did not distribute Olympics places since 1991 due to Japan hosting the 2020 Summer Olympics, but points for the FIVB World Rankings were given. So as you see it wasnt used for last games either. So “not exactly”. |
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Post by trojansc on Sept 17, 2023 12:16:27 GMT -5
Canada cant expect to go any farther without a M2 and an OH2. The Bailey and Cross injuries effectively ended any chance at us making the Olympics (and I dont even like Cross...) Canada just beat one of their biggest threats (Netherlands) and their other biggest threat just lost to the Czech Republic. It's not over yet, Canada is looking to be the first out, but that's not a terrible position to be in going into VNL 2024. |
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Post by newbeach on Sept 17, 2023 15:02:33 GMT -5
Howe and Ogoms provided nothing this match, and were overall more detrimental than helpful. Just bizzare decisions by Winzer, IMO. DR's Kwiek said in an interview at the NORCECA Continentals that they "studied Canada extensively" because they knew how important it was to beat them. That was only a couple weeks ago, so they just utilized the same game plan and Winzer did not prepare Canada for this match and she has no game plan. She was coaching reactively last night (to DR executing it's game plan). She made little to no adjustments. Howe should NOT be starting most matches (especially with teams that no her so well). To her credit she had a couple of kills and a block early in the match, but as per usual, King went to her too often. I remember at one point Gray had 3 points and how had at double the attempts. After her quick start she sizzled out and repeatedly hit into the block. Netherlands game plan (Felix said it over and over in timeouts) was to keep the ball on #14 (Howe). Any one watching, knows to serve Howe and that is exactly what the Dominican Republic did. With Howe, Gray, and Jost in the back court, it wasn't hard to serve them off the court (Jost is good but her lack of experience showed). Though I thought Gray had done (mostly) well on receive. At the NORCECA's Mitrovic started and Howe came on with her energy and aggressive swinging. Mitrovic helped stabliize the passing and did fairly well. With Howe on Canada tends to get in a hole at the beginning of sets. She added nothing and stayed on the whole match (minus a quick 10 seconds that Mitrovic saw the floor- and then later in set 5 when Savard was subbed). Why Howe wasn't replaced sooner was just bizarre and once again Mitrovic never gets a chance or is on the shortest leash imaginable. White hasn't really blocked well at the last tournament or this one. She can provide offense sometimes but she hasn't done anything remarkable lately. I was glad to see Ogums come on for her, but unfortunately, she hasn't played any matches all summer and was not in good form. There was zero connection with King (not that King even tried to set her) and DR's defence just camped out on the pins (King needs to learn to set the middle in a hurry. Her sets are too low and the location is way off most of the time. Why she doesn't utilize Maglio properly is baffling). I was hoping White would go back on for Ogums (at some point). Savard probably should have been tried out for short periods when they were getting trounced in Set 4, but Howe has the longest leash. Instead Winzer throws her in for a few minutes in set 5. Pretty tough position for Savard. Canada was out coached, and I hope she has a better game plan. But, idk, Canada has no bench, with Gray and Maglio not 100% and Van Buskirk out, I just hope they don't lose to the lowered ranked teams which is entirely possible given how poorly they played DR. |
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Post by newbeach on Sept 17, 2023 15:06:28 GMT -5
DOM pulls it out 15-12 in the 5th. They really stayed patient offensively on some of those rallies. It wasn't a great effort by them tonight, but, they did just good enough with various personnel. Tough loss for Canada, this was very winnable for them. Hope is still not lost for Paris though - they did beat Netherlands who was slightly further ahead than DOM - and they can still win points here and at VNL 2024. NORCECA all the way for the last two spots! The match was a winnable match for them last night and they let it slip away. 💔 I do think they have more in them if they all play well and once healthy - hopefully Canada has a good VNL! |
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Post by ironhammer on Sept 17, 2023 19:31:41 GMT -5
Well, that's just the details. Two top teams from each pool will qualify. And normally the World Cup is the first opportunity to get a ticket to the Olympics...except this year. So what I said is correct. not exactly: each continent must receive an olympic bid: and if not mistaken there was no African continent team in vnl? And this isnt the first year World champion isnt ised for qualifying: The 2019 FIVB Women's World Cup was the 13th edition of the event, contested by the senior women's national teams of the members of the Fédération Internationale de Volleyball (FIVB), the sport's global governing body. The tournament was held from 14 to 29 September 2019 in Japan.[1] This was the first time that the FIVB did not distribute Olympics places since 1991 due to Japan hosting the 2020 Summer Olympics, but points for the FIVB World Rankings were given. So as you see it wasnt used for last games either. So “not exactly”. Eh...not exactly what? What you said didn't contradict what I said. |
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Post by ironhammer on Sept 17, 2023 19:33:56 GMT -5
Canada cant expect to go any farther without a M2 and an OH2. The Bailey and Cross injuries effectively ended any chance at us making the Olympics (and I dont even like Cross...) Canada just beat one of their biggest threats (Netherlands) and their other biggest threat just lost to the Czech Republic. It's not over yet, Canada is looking to be the first out, but that's not a terrible position to be in going into VNL 2024.Good luck to them, they will need it. |
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Post by dodger on Sept 17, 2023 23:31:46 GMT -5
not exactly: each continent must receive an olympic bid: and if not mistaken there was no African continent team in vnl? And this isnt the first year World champion isnt ised for qualifying: The 2019 FIVB Women's World Cup was the 13th edition of the event, contested by the senior women's national teams of the members of the Fédération Internationale de Volleyball (FIVB), the sport's global governing body. The tournament was held from 14 to 29 September 2019 in Japan.[1] This was the first time that the FIVB did not distribute Olympics places since 1991 due to Japan hosting the 2020 Summer Olympics, but points for the FIVB World Rankings were given. So as you see it wasnt used for last games either. So “not exactly”. Eh...not exactly what? What you said didn't contradict what I said. lol: you said: “they used the World Chapionships for qualification to the last olympics games; 2020; “. They did not use the WC as a qualifier into the last olympics” you said the 2024 VNL will decide the other 5 places: a team can get one of the 5 spots and not be in the vnl! So thats not exactly!! lol over and out |
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Post by HandeBallerdın on Sept 18, 2023 6:36:06 GMT -5
Where is Bricio? Injured? allegedly |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Sept 18, 2023 9:02:48 GMT -5
Where is Bricio? Injured? allegedly |
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