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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 3, 2023 11:07:45 GMT -5
...can even get elected Speaker.
wondering if we are headed to not having a Speaker for 10, 50, 100...days?
this clown Gaetz has no interest in doing anything but creating chaos. useless and spineless.
let the freak show start
Trump of course wants chaos, more chaos the better for hiim, in his mind.
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 3, 2023 11:13:37 GMT -5
The issue for anyone in this Congress is that the majority can't pass anything on it's own because of a small group within the majority and any time the Speaker (whomever it is) tries to pass something by getting a handful of Dem votes, the aforementioned small group within the GOP majority will try to oust the Speaker.
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 3, 2023 11:13:58 GMT -5
It's entirely possible this House majority is totally ungovernable.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 3, 2023 11:19:08 GMT -5
it's basically a 50-50 HOuse, so the idea of passing anything without compromise is silly to begin with. and Gaetz knows that so he's only interested in chaos. Trump wants chaos, he wants things bad so that people might be tempted to look for the silver bullett (the Trump savior) vote, it plays into every thing Trump says.
the idiot Gaetz doesn't care that with a majority there actually is potential in accomplish conservative goals, but then he's not a conservative, he's a pyschotic freak interested in ultimately selling himself - another in teh long line of politicians with delusions of grandeur
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 3, 2023 11:21:39 GMT -5
It's entirely possible this House majority is totally ungovernable. well they are governable for 45 days, after that is anybodies guess. if McCarthy is ousted, they won't have any speaker. the 40 or so whack-jobs will demand the speaker be one of their own, and use threats of primary opponents against anyone that disagrees. should be entertaining. the fact they see McCarthy as 'not conservative enough' is all one needs to know about the whack jobs
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 11:29:24 GMT -5
Good riddance. Republicans would have been better served had they had a 10-12 member margin. Maga only making as much calamity because of the narrow advantage.
The Maga fringe in Congress do not work in a bi-partisan fashion. Maybe they should move to Russia.
They really are going to ruin the advantage Republicans have in the next general election. Too funny and I shall enjoy the ensuing implosion. lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 11:30:20 GMT -5
I don't think he will be, but if McCarthy is ousted what is the process for determining the next Speaker?
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 3, 2023 11:30:59 GMT -5
it's basically a 50-50 HOuse, so the idea of passing anything without compromise is silly to begin with. Nancy Pelosi managed to pass stuff on party lines with almost an identical majority to what McCarthy is working with.
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 3, 2023 11:31:14 GMT -5
I don't think he will be, but if McCarthy is ousted what is the process for determining the next Speaker? They vote on it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 11:32:59 GMT -5
I don't think he will be, but if McCarthy is ousted what is the process for determining the next Speaker? They vote on it. On who though? Does any Joe/Jane submit their name or is someone nominated/suggested?
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 3, 2023 11:34:45 GMT -5
it's basically a 50-50 HOuse, so the idea of passing anything without compromise is silly to begin with. Nancy Pelosi managed to pass stuff on party lines with almost an identical majority to what McCarthy is working with. yes, that doesn't make it the norm in fact, that's also an indicator of lack of bi-partisanship, and indicative of polarization - it means she used 'threats' to gain entire party 'unity'. so what? still not governance by bi-partisanship not really anything to laud, other than if one likes absolutism, which was the problem and remains the problem in american politics
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 3, 2023 11:37:22 GMT -5
You have to be nominated. Technically, the Speaker of the House doesn't have to be a member of the House. They could elect anyone and it's not even clear they would have to be an American citizen.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 3, 2023 11:38:34 GMT -5
You have to be nominated. Technically, the Speaker of the House doesn't have to be a member of the House. They could elect anyone and it's not even clear they would have to be an American citizen. so maybe Gaetz will nominate Putin, it's consistent with his desire to end Ukraine aid
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Post by bobinmd on Oct 3, 2023 11:42:37 GMT -5
You have to be nominated. Technically, the Speaker of the House doesn't have to be a member of the House. They could elect anyone and it's not even clear they would have to be an American citizen. so maybe Gaetz will nominate Putin, it's consistent with his desire to end Ukraine aid One of his girlfriends maybe.
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 3, 2023 11:43:08 GMT -5
Nancy Pelosi managed to pass stuff on party lines with almost an identical majority to what McCarthy is working with. yes, that doesn't make it the norm It was for her leadership, at least. She passed the ACA without Republican votes, too. Why would you do bipartisanship with a party which stands completely in opposition to your own?
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