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Post by robtearle on Nov 18, 2023 11:00:15 GMT -5
She struggled, as one would expect from a 5'9" hitter going up against the huge Wisconsin blockers. Only hit .085 for the match. She did well in serving and defense though. from my opinion " well " is an understatement.. She did amazing on serving and defense. As a Wisconsin fan, I hate her :-) Chicoine serving: Purdue won 15 points on her serve, lost 11 points. Included were a six point run to begin the match, and a five point run in the second set. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Nov 18, 2023 11:02:29 GMT -5
Chloe passed 2.53/73.7 GP% last night lol (19)
Schermerhorn was 2.55/73.7% (19)
Hudson was 2.21/52.9% (17)
(is wisconsin's serving really this poor... nebraska was almost perfect vs them too)
Hornung was the weakest and was served 40! times (1.76/35 GP%)
Orzol was 2.42/63.2 (19)
Franklin was 1.97/36.4% (44)
GG was 2.10/43.3% (30)
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Post by robtearle on Nov 18, 2023 11:12:22 GMT -5
Chloe passed 2.53/73.7 GP% last night lol (19) Schermerhorn was 2.55/73.7% (19) Hudson was 2.21/52.9% (17) (is wisconsin's serving really this poor... nebraska was almost perfect vs them too) Hornung was the weakest and was served 40! times (1.76/35 GP%) Orzol was 2.42/63.2 (19) Franklin was 1.97/36.4% (44) GG was 2.10/43.3% (30) Doesn't the fact that Wisconsin got the ball to 'their target' 40 times evidence that their serving isn't "really that poor"? (Remembering that she's only on the floor for three rotations, too.) |
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Post by bruinsgold on Nov 18, 2023 11:18:13 GMT -5
Chloe passed 2.53/73.7 GP% last night lol (19) Schermerhorn was 2.55/73.7% (19) Hudson was 2.21/52.9% (17) (is wisconsin's serving really this poor... nebraska was almost perfect vs them too) Hornung was the weakest and was served 40! times (1.76/35 GP%) Orzol was 2.42/63.2 (19) Franklin was 1.97/36.4% (44) GG was 2.10/43.3% (30) Unfortunately, Hornung has been our weakest most of the season. Man we're really gonna miss Schermerhorn next season ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ (Thanks for the stats!) |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Nov 18, 2023 11:22:59 GMT -5
Chloe passed 2.53/73.7 GP% last night lol (19) Schermerhorn was 2.55/73.7% (19) Hudson was 2.21/52.9% (17) (is wisconsin's serving really this poor... nebraska was almost perfect vs them too) Hornung was the weakest and was served 40! times (1.76/35 GP%) Orzol was 2.42/63.2 (19) Franklin was 1.97/36.4% (44) GG was 2.10/43.3% (30) Doesn't the fact that Wisconsin got the ball to 'their target' 40 times evidence that their serving isn't "really that poor"? (Remembering that she's only on the floor for three rotations, too.) I mean that's their strategy, yes. Hornung is on her own for most of their rotations because Schmerhorn is covering the OHs (and she's good enough to not risk serving that side) I'm mostly talking about the rotations where Hudson and Chloe have to pass. Purdue outpassed Wisconsin by 20% in those three rotations. (they passed the same GP% in the other three). |
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Post by coachdavid on Nov 18, 2023 11:23:34 GMT -5
Why is Hornung letting Shondell challenge that? I know it’s ultimately his control but she had to know she big time touched that. I was line judging and coach was ADAMENT there was no touch and very angry at me and sprinted to his challenge card despite his blocker going "coach I touched it". Poor girl did everything except tackle him to get him to not challenge but he ignored her and lost his challenge. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Nov 18, 2023 11:23:40 GMT -5
Chloe passed 2.53/73.7 GP% last night lol (19) Schermerhorn was 2.55/73.7% (19) Hudson was 2.21/52.9% (17) (is wisconsin's serving really this poor... nebraska was almost perfect vs them too) Hornung was the weakest and was served 40! times (1.76/35 GP%) Orzol was 2.42/63.2 (19) Franklin was 1.97/36.4% (44) GG was 2.10/43.3% (30) Unfortunately, Hornung has been our weakest most of the season. Man we're really gonna miss Schermerhorn next season ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ (Thanks for the stats!) To be fair to Ali, she's getting left on an island for most of those passes. |
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Post by robtearle on Nov 18, 2023 11:31:03 GMT -5
Doesn't the fact that Wisconsin got the ball to 'their target' 40 times evidence that their serving isn't "really that poor"? (Remembering that she's only on the floor for three rotations, too.) I mean that's their strategy, yes. Hornung is on her own for most of their rotations because Schmerhorn is covering the OHs (and she's good enough to not risk serving that side) I'm mostly talking about the rotations where Hudson and Chloe have to pass. Purdue outpassed Wisconsin by 20% in those three rotations. (they passed the same GP% in the other three). If you want to convince me that UW serving is "really that poor", then the Hudson and Chicoine numbers should be significantly better last night than their season averages. (And even then, it might just be they had a good night.) So how does it compare to their season averages. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Nov 18, 2023 11:37:02 GMT -5
I will be surprised if even a handful of NCAA matches are as tightly contested as this duel. The floor defense in the fifth set in the face of no punches pulled attacks... Maybe am too close to its conclusion to make pronouncements but this one is an instant classic in my book as good as it gets congratulations to all of the battle weary the two big guns each hit over .300 all year long folks have complained about the weak B1G bah humbug a good match between 2 of the top 3 in the big ten doesn’t mean the conference isn’t much weaker than normal lmao I think the league is significantly down this year. |
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Post by volleyball303 on Nov 18, 2023 11:54:08 GMT -5
Wisconsin’s block really struggled with Purdues outsides being out of system. They blocked better when Purdue was in system.
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Post by Kingsley on Nov 18, 2023 12:02:23 GMT -5
I mean that's their strategy, yes. Hornung is on her own for most of their rotations because Schmerhorn is covering the OHs (and she's good enough to not risk serving that side) I'm mostly talking about the rotations where Hudson and Chloe have to pass. Purdue outpassed Wisconsin by 20% in those three rotations. (they passed the same GP% in the other three). If you want to convince me that UW serving is "really that poor", then the Hudson and Chicoine numbers should be significantly better last night than their season averages. (And even then, it might just be they had a good night.) So how does it compare to their season averages. Well, if Chicoine and Schermerhorn averaged last night's numbers, they'd be the best passers in America. |
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Post by 25or624 on Nov 18, 2023 12:25:08 GMT -5
Wisconsin’s block really struggled with Purdues outsides being out of system. They blocked better when Purdue was in system. Wisconsin's block struggled generally because Smrek is out. 10 blocks in a 5 set match is not the norm. They average 2.96 BPS
People like to slice and dice the match, e.g., serving, passing, and I get that; it's what fans do, me included. That said, the devil isn't really in the details here, or in the Penn State match.
The Badgers have one 6-2 lineup that can beat any team, including Nebraska. That line-up includes Julia at libero and Anna at opposite. If the "first team" isn't available, The Badgers are greatly diminished because they lack depth on the bench for a variety of reasons. There isn't another real opposite to plug in. There isn't another outside hitter to plug in. Everything suffers from the effects of the loss of a key player and the shuffling of the line-up. Some teams can take a hit like that; The Badgers can't.
Let's not forget that the players who remain on the floor are still making some of the errors they usually make, e.g., dumping a serve into the net at a key moment, shanking a pass at a key moment, unforced hitting errors etc.
When Anna comes back, The Badgers will be back. They will still do some of the maddening things they do, but they will be a post-season contender. If Anna can't come back, or can't stay healthy when she does, we may as well start talking about the significant changes to come in 2024. I think some of them will be welcomed.
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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 18, 2023 13:31:27 GMT -5
Well duhhh, I wonder how that happened...oh wait: * Best OH from Michigan State (Franklin) transfers to Wisconsin * Best MB from Minnesota (Booth) transfers to Wisconsin * Best OH from Northwestern (Thomas-Ailara) transfers to Wisconsin * Best OH from Michigan (Mruzik) transfers to Penn State * Best setter from Ohio State (Podraza) transfers to Penn State Yeah, all those teams that worked their butts off to recruit, develop, and support those players kinda suck this year, huh? This makes no sense on any level. 1. Almost all those transfers are due to coaching changes. The coaching staffs that recruited, developed and supported those players were no longer there. Depending on who you are talking about, the players who transferred decided not to sit through an uncertain rebuilding process, or deal with toxic dynamics that led to or resulted from the coaching changes. You are arguing that players should have loyalty not to those who "worked their butts off" but to a faceless institution that largely did not, and actually may have worked against the athletes' interests in firing the coaching staff. That doesn't make sense. 2. The fact that they transferred in conference actually preserved what strength the conference had. If they had transferred out of conference the B1G would have been even less strong on paper. Yes it increased the inequity in the conference, but that really is down to the fact that many historically decent programs are in a rebuilding phase with new coaching staffs. Michigan, MSU, Ohio State, will get better again. PSU is just a little ahead of the rebuilding curve of those other programs. 3. As far as grad transfers are concerned, are you suggesting that a player who diligently contributed to a program for 4 years prior (or more in the case of redshirts) should be restricted to the grad academic opportunities at that same institution? In academia, it is not usually considered a good thing to only have experience from one institution, so in effect you would be punishing them for their prior commitment. In Podraza's case, she was forced to transfer to make scholarship room for the incoming class. It wasn't her choice by reports. I say, once they graduate, their commitment is done and they can make their choice based on whatever criteria they want. I don't think that is a controversial take. |
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Post by coachk2 on Nov 18, 2023 13:32:24 GMT -5
Well duhhh, I wonder how that happened...oh wait: * Best OH from Michigan State (Franklin) transfers to Wisconsin * Best MB from Minnesota (Booth) transfers to Wisconsin * Best OH from Northwestern (Thomas-Ailara) transfers to Wisconsin * Best OH from Michigan (Mruzik) transfers to Penn State * Best setter from Ohio State (Podraza) transfers to Penn State Yeah, all those teams that worked their butts off to recruit, develop, and support those players kinda suck this year, huh? Those first three must all like cheese 🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀 |
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Post by robtearle on Nov 18, 2023 13:33:16 GMT -5
Well duhhh, I wonder how that happened...oh wait: * Best OH from Michigan State (Franklin) transfers to Wisconsin * Best MB from Minnesota (Booth) transfers to Wisconsin * Best OH from Northwestern (Thomas-Ailara) transfers to Wisconsin * Best OH from Michigan (Mruzik) transfers to Penn State * Best setter from Ohio State (Podraza) transfers to Penn State Yeah, all those teams that worked their butts off to recruit, develop, and support those players kinda suck this year, huh? They all must all like cheese 🧀🧀🧀🧀🧀 Who doesn't? |
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