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Post by YugoNation on Dec 2, 2023 0:06:51 GMT -5
So AAU national championship registration opened today so I decided to do my analytics review again this year. For all the data please go here: Boys Nationals 2024Couple of quick observations: * 386 teams signed up after less than 12 hours of sign ups I am pretty sure that's a record for boys volleyball * It looks like spike and serve will try to play both waves with their teams (I guess they are already there so might as well * 630 volleyball has a lot of teams in their club! Cheers and lets #growthegame
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Post by YugoNation on Dec 14, 2023 9:44:32 GMT -5
Quick update on this after 2 weeks of signups. 704 teams signed up, 29 states represented so far and Canada and China. California leading the way with 183 teams, Illinois is 2nd with 128 teams and then Florida has 91, Wisconsin is 4th with 43 and Ohio 5th with 35 teams! Boys Nationals 2024
Unfortunately USAV nationals only has 44 teams signed up so far so I will be adding them to the spreadsheet later once the numbers are a bit bigger.
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Post by YugoNation on Jan 9, 2024 11:47:53 GMT -5
A month into the signups and there are now 880 teams signed up for the AAU nationals and 74 for USAV. Boys Nationals 2024* Added some data around signup changes from last year as this year there is a new Elite division in 15-18U which is skewing the numbers a bit but overall, it's a really good trend for nationals (may hit a 1000 teams) * Also added a comparison 2023 tab which shows the clubs that signed up last year and compared it to this year Game is growing rapidly thank you to all of you for supporting boys' volleyball!
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Post by YugoNation on Jan 28, 2024 0:16:41 GMT -5
Almost at the 2 month mark into signups and AAU has 1025 registered teams! Boys Nationals 2024Couple of interesting tidbits: * looks like the 14U age group may be smaller than last year * MVVC, A10 and UNO not signed up yet (this is usually almost 40 teams) * Sports Performance signing up only 2 teams? * 33 states, Canada and Puerto Rico participating; All that work by First Points and volunteers around the country pushing for sanctioning of boys volleyball in high school seems to be paying off! Looks like we are on a right path friends! Thank you to all of you and the clubs and parents for supporting boys volleyball!
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Post by YugoNation on Feb 13, 2024 9:38:18 GMT -5
Feb 12th and AAU National Championships has 1126 registered teams!! At this rate just wave 1 alone may be the 2nd biggest boys volleyball tournament ever held Boys Nationals 202434 states represented, unfortunately still no representation from Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Delaware, Iowa, Louisiana (hope to see Bayou Boys there), Maine, Mississippi, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming - maybe someone will join Thank you again to the clubs, parents and of course players for supporting boys volleyball!
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Post by foreignball on Mar 11, 2024 19:49:00 GMT -5
Hi Everybody,
I need some help: I know a lot people here are coaches, refs, etc. May I ask for analysis of this short 40 sec video clip? What is right, what is wrong, etc. I’m trying to get an anonymous and unbiased opinion. The only fact I can share – the teams there are U14. Thank you in advance!
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Post by sydneyoperahouse on Mar 11, 2024 23:02:14 GMT -5
Hi Everybody, I need some help: I know a lot people here are coaches, refs, etc. May I ask for analysis of this short 40 sec video clip? What is right, what is wrong, etc. I’m trying to get an anonymous and unbiased opinion. The only fact I can share – the teams there are U14. Thank you in advance! Someday coaches will learn that their actions affect the refereeing...
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Post by wilbur on Mar 12, 2024 10:43:46 GMT -5
Hi Everybody, I need some help: I know a lot people here are coaches, refs, etc. May I ask for analysis of this short 40 sec video clip? What is right, what is wrong, etc. I’m trying to get an anonymous and unbiased opinion. The only fact I can share – the teams there are U14. Thank you in advance! You are fishing for a specific response or else you would have shared more of the video. This was obviously the result of something happening earlier in the match. All I can say is, I am sad that two adults (coach and ref) created (assumption on my part) a situation that ruined the end of a match that looked to be competitive between 2 skilled teams. From the short clip I saw, both teams were filled with good players that probably love the sport and look forward to matches like this. Hopefully both adults grow up and behave differently so an avpidable aituagion like this doesn't repeat.
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Post by mrsdarcy on Mar 12, 2024 12:01:51 GMT -5
The setter on the red team did seem to hold the ball a long time before setting it, which resulted in a "caught or thrown" call by the ref. This is a judgment call for the ref to make. My question would be whether the ref consistently applied the rule during the tournament and match. I have noticed an unfortunate trend to let this type of contact go in boy's club tournaments this year. When a team comes across a ref that calls it appropriately, the young setter is surprised and confused by the call as apparently this player and coach were.
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Post by gtrich on Mar 12, 2024 13:29:38 GMT -5
The setter on the red team did seem to hold the ball a long time before setting it, which resulted in a "caught or thrown" call by the ref. This is a judgment call for the ref to make. My question would be whether the ref consistently applied the rule during the tournament and match. I have noticed an unfortunate trend to let this type of contact go in boy's club tournaments this year. When a team comes across a ref that calls it appropriately, the young setter is surprised and confused by the call as apparently this player and coach were. The first set was pretty quick, so maybe it started too low on his body and that's why it was called. The second set was straight off the beach court and IMO, should get called 100% of the time in indoor. We saw a lot of sets like that from the younger Puerto Rico teams and from teams where the setter plays a lot of beach. Some refs in club will let it go, others will call it all day long.
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Post by gtrich on Mar 12, 2024 13:54:45 GMT -5
Hi Everybody, I need some help: I know a lot people here are coaches, refs, etc. May I ask for analysis of this short 40 sec video clip? What is right, what is wrong, etc. I’m trying to get an anonymous and unbiased opinion. The only fact I can share – the teams there are U14. Thank you in advance! Someday coaches will learn that their actions affect the refereeing... We had a ref earlier this year that took things very personally. If a coach/player/parent got on her bad side, she refused to call anything close for that team. That included touch calls. If the R2 or the line kids called a touch in that teams favor, she would pull them over, interrogate them all about the call, and would do her best to over-rule them. She did that at least twice in a match we were playing, and a couple of times in one we were reffing.
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Post by wilbur on Mar 12, 2024 17:03:58 GMT -5
Someday coaches will learn that their actions affect the refereeing... We had a ref earlier this year that took things very personally. If a coach/player/parent got on her bad side, she refused to call anything close for that team. That included touch calls. If the R2 or the line kids called a touch in that teams favor, she would pull them over, interrogate them all about the call, and would do her best to over-rule them. She did that at least twice in a match we were playing, and a couple of times in one we were reffing. this should be reported to the lead ref coordinator, ideally with some video. They do get plenty of complaints like this and they are not always well founded but if this is what happened, her coordinator should know. Enough people mention this and are reasonable about notifying about it, there will be adjustments. Most parents don't know the rules or interpret the rules in their son's favor with extreme bias. Neither of those sets should have been called IMO and judging by the coach's reaction and a couple of the parents on the side there was history. There should be more leeway for 14s and under as well as lower divisions. The skill level on that court didn't need leeway but those sets were fine would not be called in college or by any decent ref at any other level. I'm sorry, but people that are saying either of these sets should be called, don't know the game well enough to be commenting on it. The goal is to ref a safe, fair, fun, efficient match... in that order. The ref failed #2 and #3... but it was an efficient way to move the match along. I want kids to like volleyball and have fun playing it. It is not figure skating, no need to conform to some aesthetic moving target standard
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Post by sydneyoperahouse on Mar 12, 2024 18:01:35 GMT -5
We had a ref earlier this year that took things very personally. If a coach/player/parent got on her bad side, she refused to call anything close for that team. That included touch calls. If the R2 or the line kids called a touch in that teams favor, she would pull them over, interrogate them all about the call, and would do her best to over-rule them. She did that at least twice in a match we were playing, and a couple of times in one we were reffing. this should be reported to the lead ref coordinator, ideally with some video. They do get plenty of complaints like this and they are not always well founded but if this is what happened, her coordinator should know. Enough people mention this and are reasonable about notifying about it, there will be adjustments. Most parents don't know the rules or interpret the rules in their son's favor with extreme bias. Neither of those sets should have been called IMO and judging by the coach's reaction and a couple of the parents on the side there was history. There should be more leeway for 14s and under as well as lower divisions. The skill level on that court didn't need leeway but those sets were fine would not be called in college or by any decent ref at any other level. I'm sorry, but people that are saying either of these sets should be called, don't know the game well enough to be commenting on it. The goal is to ref a safe, fair, fun, efficient match... in that order. The ref failed #2 and #3... but it was an efficient way to move the match along. I want kids to like volleyball and have fun playing it. It is not figure skating, no need to conform to some aesthetic moving target standard I thought both sets were fine as well but I have little sympathy for coaches who behave like that.
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Post by foreignball on Mar 12, 2024 22:14:45 GMT -5
Thank you all for the honest responses. I'm not going to file that in a court of law. My problem: after the final whistle when the ref came down from the chair, he said loudly " You have to say thank you to your coach"??? He said that at the FACES OF THE PLAYERS!!! It was all about some previous plays that he did or he didn't call and our coach reacted emotionally. OK you have yellow and red cards, you can send the coach out. Why would you punish the players??? A personal observation: The boys didn't even figured out what was going on. They were thinking it was a fair competition. Next: how one could say that to 14 years old??? I do have video footage but it is irrelevant in this case. The boys practice, go to tournaments and all of a sudden they realize that their work doesn't matter at all because there is a "higher power". What moral we, the adults teach the young generation? We just show them that one can get screwed at any time, no matter what. Thanks again!
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Post by foreignball on Mar 12, 2024 22:59:27 GMT -5
Oh, I missed a detail : Have you noticed that right after the last serve when the libero was receiving in 6 a ball from the other court came in and the player who was in 1 had to chase it? ....No replay was called??? Anyway, now I'm having issues trying to figure out the meaning of "sportsmanship"
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