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Post by n00b on Jan 9, 2024 21:42:22 GMT -5
We should absolutely care about those people. It's a difficult subject that is very tricky to deal with. I also think it is a completely different conversation and debate than talking about individuals whose sex is not ambiguous, but are transgender. Not saying that we shouldn't. However, what your physical sex is (and it is unambiguous in .9998 of cases) does affect athletic performance. Why aren't trangenders identifying as "males" an issue for men's sports? For the simple reason, with very few exceptions, that they'd be competitively disadvantaged (can't run as fast, jump as high, hit as hard, etc.). I suspect quite a few trans male athletes make the decision to not medically transition so they stay eligible for women's sports.
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Post by staticb on Jan 10, 2024 1:01:24 GMT -5
Not saying that we shouldn't. However, what your physical sex is (and it is unambiguous in .9998 of cases) does affect athletic performance. Why aren't trangenders identifying as "males" an issue for men's sports? For the simple reason, with very few exceptions, that they'd be competitively disadvantaged (can't run as fast, jump as high, hit as hard, etc.). I suspect quite a few trans male athletes make the decision to not medically transition so they stay eligible for women's sports. There was the case of a trans male wrestler in Texas. He had started to transition and lobbied to wrestle in the men's division, but wasn't allowed. But because he had started to transition--he now had a huge advantage over other biological females because of all the testosterone he was taking. Different set of problems.
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Post by statsqueen on Apr 26, 2024 13:45:24 GMT -5
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Post by cindra on Apr 26, 2024 14:13:00 GMT -5
the source for this "article" is an unsourced tweet from december
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Post by n00b on Apr 26, 2024 14:18:44 GMT -5
the source for this "article" is an unsourced tweet from december I suspect we'll know if Washington pulled the offer in the summer of 2025 when Tate either does or doesn't appear on the roster.
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Post by hookem1 on Apr 26, 2024 14:46:59 GMT -5
the source for this "article" is an unsourced tweet from december I suspect we'll know if Washington pulled the offer in the summer of 2025 when Tate either does or doesn't appear on the roster. Don’t think it will be something that you will have to wait on, pretty sure the ship has already sailed. Breitbart News did receive an email from the student’s mother…who confirmed that “Tate will not be playing volleyball for the University of Washington.”
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 26, 2024 16:51:10 GMT -5
the source for this "article" is an unsourced tweet from december I suspect we'll know if Washington pulled the offer in the summer of 2025 when Tate either does or doesn't appear on the roster. I don't know how that would tell you whether they ever offered a place on the team at all. All we have on that is a post from the player herself.
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Post by n00b on Apr 26, 2024 16:57:59 GMT -5
I suspect we'll know if Washington pulled the offer in the summer of 2025 when Tate either does or doesn't appear on the roster. I don't know how that would tell you whether they ever offered a place on the team at all. All we have on that is a post from the player herself. It's pretty rare for a recruit to post a commitment without an offer. Not impossible I suppose, but certainly doesn't seem like the most likely scenario.
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Post by jcvball22 on Apr 26, 2024 17:06:55 GMT -5
I suspect we'll know if Washington pulled the offer in the summer of 2025 when Tate either does or doesn't appear on the roster. I don't know how that would tell you whether they ever offered a place on the team at all. All we have on that is a post from the player herself. Uhhh are you new here? That is literally the only allowable posting for commitments until NLIs are signed. Yes, she had an offer. Yes, it was revoked. She is attempting to restart her recruiting process, but the publicity surrounding this is making it difficult. Hopefully, she finds a place that will honor their commitment and she will get to continue her career that she has worked so hard for.
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Post by Huskyfan on Apr 26, 2024 17:11:51 GMT -5
I suspect we'll know if Washington pulled the offer in the summer of 2025 when Tate either does or doesn't appear on the roster. I don't know how that would tell you whether they ever offered a place on the team at all. All we have on that is a post from the player herself. When Tate first posted her commitment on Instagram, Tui and other coaches plus a few players reposted it on their Instagram Story. Many friends congratulated her. An offer was in place.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 26, 2024 17:14:17 GMT -5
I don't know how that would tell you whether they ever offered a place on the team at all. All we have on that is a post from the player herself. When Tate first posted her commitment on Instagram, Tui and other coaches plus a few players reposted it on their Instagram Story. Many friends congratulated her. An offer was in place. OK, that all sounds like a confirmation then. Thanks.
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Post by Huskyfan on Apr 26, 2024 17:23:29 GMT -5
When Tate first posted her commitment on Instagram, Tui and other coaches plus a few players reposted it on their Instagram Story. Many friends congratulated her. An offer was in place. OK, that all sounds like a confirmation then. Thanks. If the scholarship offer was indeed rescinded, I will not be the only long time donor who may reconsider my support for the program.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 26, 2024 17:42:06 GMT -5
OK, that all sounds like a confirmation then. Thanks. If the scholarship offer was indeed rescinded, I will not be the only long time donor who may reconsider my support for the program. I agree, it is troubling. It would seem to contradict the university's own policy on gender identity. registrar.washington.edu/students/personal-data/gender-identity/
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 26, 2024 17:45:11 GMT -5
Washington WAS aware that tate was trans They rescinded due to the backlash
TBH, I dont KNOW where I stand on the issue. I dont lean either way. I think its entirely possible for a trans women to play womens sports, depending on hormone levels, when they began transitioning etc.
but also its entirely possible that it causes an unfair advantage in certain cases.
its hard to say.
HOWEVER, Washington pulling out last minute cause the backlash and the NASTY comments from people, including some on this board are deplorable.
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Post by eldorado on Apr 26, 2024 23:37:07 GMT -5
OK, that all sounds like a confirmation then. Thanks. If the scholarship offer was indeed rescinded, I will not be the only long time donor who may reconsider my support for the program. That will be devastating, they may fold.
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