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Post by rjaege on Apr 27, 2024 6:04:03 GMT -5
Not sure how this specific case turns out, but have an extended family member that is trans. He is currently in his mid-30's. Thing is he appears to be floundering both career-wise and personally. Family is accepting, but there is a lot more involved than family acceptance. Not sure what the future holds for him, but his opportunities appear diminishing. People have tried to help, but that never seems to work out. At some point, the individual must forge their own path. It appears he has forged a difficult path for himself. Is that on him or society? IDK, just know it appears difficult and he is increasingly unhappy and angry.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Apr 27, 2024 8:38:57 GMT -5
Not sure how this specific case turns out, but have an extended family member that is trans. He is currently in his mid-30's. Thing is he appears to be floundering both career-wise and personally. Family is accepting, but there is a lot more involved than family acceptance. Not sure what the future holds for him, but his opportunities appear diminishing. People have tried to help, but that never seems to work out. At some point, the individual must forge their own path. It appears he has forged a difficult path for himself. Is that on him or society? IDK, just know it appears difficult and he is increasingly unhappy and angry. That is truly unfortunate. I hope your family member is able to persevere and see a path forward that sees them happier and successful.
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Post by rjaege on Apr 27, 2024 9:13:53 GMT -5
Not sure how this specific case turns out, but have an extended family member that is trans. He is currently in his mid-30's. Thing is he appears to be floundering both career-wise and personally. Family is accepting, but there is a lot more involved than family acceptance. Not sure what the future holds for him, but his opportunities appear diminishing. People have tried to help, but that never seems to work out. At some point, the individual must forge their own path. It appears he has forged a difficult path for himself. Is that on him or society? IDK, just know it appears difficult and he is increasingly unhappy and angry. That is truly unfortunate. I hope your family member is able to persevere and see a path forward that sees them happier and successful. Thanks, as do we.
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Post by mplsgopher on Apr 27, 2024 10:22:56 GMT -5
TBH, I dont KNOW where I stand on the issue. I dont lean either way. I think its entirely possible for a trans women to play womens sports, depending on hormone levels, when they began transitioning etc. but also its entirely possible that it causes an unfair advantage in certain cases. its hard to say Probably impossible to make a criteria that is perfectly fair in all cases. And any judgement, no matter how well meaning, can and will be blasted by opposition.
The "easy" way out is: if you have a Y chromosome (or multiple), you're disqualified from women's athletics.
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Post by staticb on Apr 27, 2024 10:31:06 GMT -5
The "easy" way out is: if you have a Y chromosome (or multiple), you're disqualified from women's athletics.
It could be one day--but for now who is going to fund all this genetic testing for competitions that don't pay out prize money anyway? It's the common reason why amateur athletics have the rules that they have. Is every woman going to have to carry a "chromosome" card that they need to enter their local recreational athletics competition? (Yes, that's some of the things being complained about) It's a cost issue, and (right now) a privacy violation/health issue.
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Post by mplsgopher on Apr 27, 2024 10:33:08 GMT -5
Hence why "easy" in quotations. There are no truly easy answers here. Probably not the best word. Maybe "simplest" would have been better.
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Post by northwoods on Apr 27, 2024 10:41:38 GMT -5
Has anyone ever interviewed Keegan Cook on this situation? He was in charge of Washington VB at the time any “offer” was made, and I would appreciate his view on if he thought this was a direction he was taking his recruiting, whether it’s an approach he’ll be bringing to Minnesota? Seems like a logical journalistic step.
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Post by volleyball303 on Apr 27, 2024 11:16:06 GMT -5
Has anyone ever interviewed Keegan Cook on this situation? He was in charge of Washington VB at the time any “offer” was made, and I would appreciate his view on if he thought this was a direction he was taking his recruiting, whether it’s an approach he’ll be bringing to Minnesota? Seems like a logical journalistic step. Someone on here said it was not known by the coaches at the time the offer was made. Maybe them feeling a little misled was the reason the offer was pulled more so than the situation itself?
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 27, 2024 11:16:40 GMT -5
Has anyone ever interviewed Keegan Cook on this situation? He was in charge of Washington VB at the time any “offer” was made, and I would appreciate his view on if he thought this was a direction he was taking his recruiting, whether it’s an approach he’ll be bringing to Minnesota? Seems like a logical journalistic step. Wasn’t Leslie in charge already?
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 27, 2024 11:16:57 GMT -5
Has anyone ever interviewed Keegan Cook on this situation? He was in charge of Washington VB at the time any “offer” was made, and I would appreciate his view on if he thought this was a direction he was taking his recruiting, whether it’s an approach he’ll be bringing to Minnesota? Seems like a logical journalistic step. Someone on here said it was not known by the coaches at the time the offer was made. Maybe them feeling a little misled was the reason the offer was pulled more so than the situation itself? I was told they were aware.
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Post by OHVBKING on Apr 27, 2024 13:20:32 GMT -5
Glad to see NAIA create policy for this and athletes like Riley Gaines who had the courage to step up and voice her opinion. I know there are some people on here that do not agree with NAIA or Riley Gaines and that is okay. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion. Somewhere along the way a lot of society has forgotten how to coexist with people who have different opinions.
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Post by luckydawg on Apr 27, 2024 13:55:28 GMT -5
Breitbart News did receive an email from the student’s mother…who confirmed that “Tate will not be playing volleyball for the University of Washington.” Not really the pinnacle of journalistic integrity.
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Post by hookem1 on Apr 27, 2024 15:34:56 GMT -5
Breitbart News did receive an email from the student’s mother…who confirmed that “Tate will not be playing volleyball for the University of Washington.” Not really the pinnacle of journalistic integrity. While I agree, I would hope completely fabricating a quote isn’t something they’d do.
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Post by rrvbfan on Apr 27, 2024 17:33:40 GMT -5
Has anyone ever interviewed Keegan Cook on this situation? He was in charge of Washington VB at the time any “offer” was made, and I would appreciate his view on if he thought this was a direction he was taking his recruiting, whether it’s an approach he’ll be bringing to Minnesota? Seems like a logical journalistic step. Someone on here said it was not known by the coaches at the time the offer was made. Maybe them feeling a little misled was the reason the offer was pulled more so than the situation itself? this is my understanding as well. That the coaches were not aware until the “article” came out.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Apr 27, 2024 17:57:04 GMT -5
Breitbart News did receive an email from the student’s mother…who confirmed that “Tate will not be playing volleyball for the University of Washington.” Not really the pinnacle of journalistic integrity. Name one publication that is these days.
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