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Post by tablealgebra on Nov 21, 2024 19:07:03 GMT -5
Those SE numbers are NOT something to be super proud of! There’s always room for improvement. Imagine if half of Wisconsin’s SE converted into points for WI. Would have been a completely different game. The numbers posted by robtearle are actually what matters in terms of serving. If you are winning more than 50% of your points as a server, you are elite. Minnesota match #2 Points scored during the serve of server: Orzol: 7 points scored, 10 times serve lost Franklin: 12 points scored, 12 times serve lost Charlie: 5 points scored, 10 times serve lost CC: 3 points scored, 9 times serve lost Carly: 7 points scored, 9 times serve lost Saige: 8 points scored, 10 times serve lost Through the first three sets, Franklin had scored on only 2 serves, losing 8 serves. For the 4th and 5th sets, Sheffield "spun the dial", changing the rotation starting point and the matchups. In the 4th and 5th sets, Frank scored on 10 serves and only lost 4 serves. Whatever that change in rotation did, it sure worked when it came to Frank's serving. ... So I agree to an extent about side out percentage but I think you also have to consider the context that, with our rotations pretty well set, certain players always have better serving situations. For example, GG has the worst serving situation because she serves in a rotation where up front we have Julia, CC and Charlie (giving us very little offensive firepower and a small block), while Charlie arguably has the best serving situation with Sarah, Anna and Carter up there - not to mention that if both teams start rotation 1 she'll be serving at a formation with the setter right back (having to run up) and the hitters stacked left, giving two places with traffic to exploit. Lola, with Julia, CC and Anna also has a great serving situation. The point is that opponent side out percentage has to be taken with a bit of context. I think the best way to rate servers would be taking ace, error, overpass, good pass and perfect pass percentages and weighting them with respect to the expected side out percentage of those types of passes. Opponents pass rating is kind of a poor man's version of that though it doesn't account for errors or aces that don't hit anyone. |
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Post by swaggyp on Nov 21, 2024 19:12:28 GMT -5
I think the best way to rate servers would be taking ace, error, overpass, good pass and perfect pass percentages and weighting them with respect to the expected side out percentage of those types of passes. I think the best way to rate them is by how quickly they hit it after the up official blows the whistle, thus adding to Sarah's already solid 2-time POTY case. (Seriously tho when Sarah was up after Anna assaulted that one in the middle of the floor for the 9th point I was like "bro can you just hang on a sec, the roof is about to come off this building.") |
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Post by Pepperjack on Nov 21, 2024 19:38:09 GMT -5
PSU beat Purdue in 3… Saturdays match is an absolute needed win.
Now we just hope that PSU beats Neb???
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Post by wiguy94 on Nov 21, 2024 19:43:18 GMT -5
PSU beat Purdue in 3… Saturdays match is an absolute needed win. Now we just hope that PSU beats Neb??? I think with that PSU win that the Badgers have no realistic shot at getting a Top 4 seed in the NCAA tournament or getting a share of the Big 10 title. Can we get a 5 or 6 seed in the NCAA if we lose to Nebraska but beat OSU and MSU? |
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Post by badgerguru on Nov 21, 2024 19:59:21 GMT -5
boooo Purdue
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Post by maigrey on Nov 21, 2024 20:12:14 GMT -5
I think the best way to rate servers would be taking ace, error, overpass, good pass and perfect pass percentages and weighting them with respect to the expected side out percentage of those types of passes. I think the best way to rate them is by how quickly they hit it after the up official blows the whistle, thus adding to Sarah's already solid 2-time POTY case. (Seriously tho when Sarah was up after Anna assaulted that one in the middle of the floor for the 9th point I was like "bro can you just hang on a sec, the roof is about to come off this building.") That chick serves like 1 sec after the whistle, she gotta GO! |
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Post by volleyball90 on Nov 21, 2024 21:52:04 GMT -5
I think the best way to rate them is by how quickly they hit it after the up official blows the whistle, thus adding to Sarah's already solid 2-time POTY case. (Seriously tho when Sarah was up after Anna assaulted that one in the middle of the floor for the 9th point I was like "bro can you just hang on a sec, the roof is about to come off this building.") That chick serves like 1 sec after the whistle, she gotta GO! Quick serving legitimately works. Also, whenever I was on a serve run, I found it kept me in rhythm. |
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Post by badgerguru on Nov 21, 2024 21:53:24 GMT -5
So now we just hope for a Washington upset. Reaching here but..
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Post by honeybadger88 on Nov 21, 2024 22:18:28 GMT -5
So now we just hope for a Washington upset. Reaching here but.. If there is sports betting, then we would be safe in betting on Penn State to beat Washington so easy money at least. |
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Post by robtearle on Nov 21, 2024 22:47:53 GMT -5
I noticed this too. My theory at the time was it had to be sub-count related so that _if_ he got "stuck" without subs he had his preferred[*] lineup on the floor. I based that on the fact that Devyn basically single handedly closed out Set 4 so it would make sense to stick with the hot hand if you had the option. [*] : What is Sheff's preferred lineup in this circumstance? We don't know. If it were me, I'd want my most versatile 6. But it's certainly plausible you'd want your best 6 defenders or your most terminal collection or you might be thinking about service line percentages. If I get time, I'll go through all of the 5th (again!) and count subs. That's actually easier to do live than on video; on video, you have to infer, because they aren't often showing the bench in between points. But you gotta say, the often criticized Dev/CC MB combination certainly 'worked' in that 5th set. Devyn had the first two kills (IIRC) and CC the final two. If I counted correctly, Wisconsin was at 11 subs used when the set ended. A Devyn-for-CC sub on that last point would have been #12, and Carly was on the floor serving as a DS from Smrek. Assuming that the "we're out of subs" lineup includes CC at middle - because she's the serving middle - you'd go to 12 putting Devyn back in, then 13 bringing CC back in, and then I guess use #14 to bring Smrek back when the rotations got there. So maybe the plan was leave CC in for good right now, and save the last four subs for two more rounds of Smrek-Carly swaps. You know, in case the set goes to 30 points. :-) |
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