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Nov 9, 2024 3:13:27 GMT -5
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Post by pointexas on Nov 9, 2024 3:13:27 GMT -5
Little being absent was not the reason Utah won the match. They can pass and s/r ... what did Utah have 8-9 aces? How about that vaunted libero of ours. I actually thought Benson played decently given it is her first real game experience in a pressure situation. Bobik looked ok but Bower's defense is suspect as is our passing .... Miller didn't play much, Billiter had a very poor match, Johnson didn't do too badly, Lulu was very average and with Claire out BYU just didn't stand a chance. Satuala is an excellent athlete and how she got over looked by Weber, UVU, Utah and USU is a mystery to me. It would be nice to have Jardine on the BYU roster, and Giladlo is the best pin in the state and that includes Claire. I don't think the Utah team is build for the future but right now they are poised to make a NCAA tourney run. Arizona beats KU? BYU is closing in on 10 losses this season. They might get there before the NCAA's. 11… Utah had 11 aces. 7 came from Gibadlo alone |
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Post by azvb on Nov 9, 2024 11:39:54 GMT -5
Little being absent was not the reason Utah won the match. They can pass and s/r ... what did Utah have 8-9 aces? How about that vaunted libero of ours. I actually thought Benson played decently given it is her first real game experience in a pressure situation. Bobik looked ok but Bower's defense is suspect as is our passing .... Miller didn't play much, Billiter had a very poor match, Johnson didn't do too badly, Lulu was very average and with Claire out BYU just didn't stand a chance. Satuala is an excellent athlete and how she got over looked by Weber, UVU, Utah and USU is a mystery to me. It would be nice to have Jardine on the BYU roster, and Giladlo is the best pin in the state and that includes Claire. I don't think the Utah team is build for the future but right now they are poised to make a NCAA tourney run. Arizona beats KU? BYU is closing in on 10 losses this season. They might get there before the NCAA's. 11… Utah had 11 aces. 7 came from Gibadlo alone On the bright side, better than the 13 Oregon had 🫤. |
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Post by azvb on Nov 9, 2024 11:55:18 GMT -5
Little being absent was not the reason Utah won the match. They can pass and s/r ... what did Utah have 8-9 aces? How about that vaunted libero of ours. I actually thought Benson played decently given it is her first real game experience in a pressure situation. Bobik looked ok but Bower's defense is suspect as is our passing .... Miller didn't play much, Billiter had a very poor match, Johnson didn't do too badly, Lulu was very average and with Claire out BYU just didn't stand a chance. Satuala is an excellent athlete and how she got over looked by Weber, UVU, Utah and USU is a mystery to me. It would be nice to have Jardine on the BYU roster, and Giladlo is the best pin in the state and that includes Claire. I don't think the Utah team is build for the future but right now they are poised to make a NCAA tourney run. Arizona beats KU? BYU is closing in on 10 losses this season. They might get there before the NCAA's. You said Johnson didn’t do too badly. She had 4 digs. I’m assuming you think she passed well? I can’t find in the stats passing scores/averages. Am I looking in the wrong place? I chuckled when the announcer said “BYU misses Little passing on the back row.” Amy didn’t correct her 😂. Definitely missed Little in the front, but also her pipes out of the back. It’s a bad match when Kate Prior leads in hitting %. Utah played great. Really great. Their defense was solid. Easier to do when all you have to worry about are high sets to the outside! |
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Post by bbg95 on Nov 9, 2024 11:59:30 GMT -5
Hmm, I checked the BYU message board. Seems like she was in street clothes on the bench. Probably injured. Hopefully, she'll be back soon. Got heads up that she’s sick. No injury so that’s good news. Okay, that's a relief. We likely lose this match even if Little played. But at the very least, it probably wouldn't have been quite as lopsided. BYU seems to play a lot better at home than on the road, which makes sense given how young they are. End of the day, they still went 1-1 v. Utah. |
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Post by silverchloride on Nov 9, 2024 12:13:44 GMT -5
Little being absent was not the reason Utah won the match. They can pass and s/r ... what did Utah have 8-9 aces? How about that vaunted libero of ours. I actually thought Benson played decently given it is her first real game experience in a pressure situation. Bobik looked ok but Bower's defense is suspect as is our passing .... Miller didn't play much, Billiter had a very poor match, Johnson didn't do too badly, Lulu was very average and with Claire out BYU just didn't stand a chance. Satuala is an excellent athlete and how she got over looked by Weber, UVU, Utah and USU is a mystery to me. It would be nice to have Jardine on the BYU roster, and Giladlo is the best pin in the state and that includes Claire. I don't think the Utah team is build for the future but right now they are poised to make a NCAA tourney run. Arizona beats KU? BYU is closing in on 10 losses this season. They might get there before the NCAA's. Why do you believe that Giladlo is the better pin? |
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Post by loversrock on Nov 10, 2024 5:56:47 GMT -5
Little being absent was not the reason Utah won the match. They can pass and s/r ... what did Utah have 8-9 aces? How about that vaunted libero of ours. I actually thought Benson played decently given it is her first real game experience in a pressure situation. Bobik looked ok but Bower's defense is suspect as is our passing .... Miller didn't play much, Billiter had a very poor match, Johnson didn't do too badly, Lulu was very average and with Claire out BYU just didn't stand a chance. Satuala is an excellent athlete and how she got over looked by Weber, UVU, Utah and USU is a mystery to me. It would be nice to have Jardine on the BYU roster, and Giladlo is the best pin in the state and that includes Claire. I don't think the Utah team is build for the future but right now they are poised to make a NCAA tourney run. Arizona beats KU? BYU is closing in on 10 losses this season. They might get there before the NCAA's. This is why we’re unable to grasp anything that comes out of Marn’s pie hole. He claims to read statistics but obviously doesn't comprehend how they work. He's attempting to downplay the fact that Uluave was their sole player passing all night and appeared to be the only player prepared to pass. Saying she was “just average” makes very little sense, given her stats. She was the only player in S/R who passed without making a single error all night with 15 digs leading the team. They were purposefully ignoring Serving her, cause they knew she was their best passer. She’s definitely a natural athlete might be identified simply by the way she carried herself. She handled so much of the back row on her own. Ellie Mortensen caused five of Utah's 11 errors against BYU, Hannah Billeter caused four, Miller caused one, and Strong caused the last one. Claire Little was undoubtedly the reason they lost. To be able to combat Utah without Little and show how much she is missed. Without Little's assistance, we were able to accumulate enough points to demonstrate how impactful Little’s role is on the team. You definitely can't argue the statistics of the team's performance with or without her. Sit this one out. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 10, 2024 17:09:13 GMT -5
Little being absent was not the reason Utah won the match. BYU can't pass and s/r ... what did Utah have 8-9 aces? How about that vaunted libero of ours? I actually thought Benson played decently given it is her first real game experience in a pressure situation. Bobik looked ok but Bower's defense is suspect as is our passing .... Miller didn't play much, Billiter had a very poor match, Johnson didn't do too badly, Lulu was very average and with Claire out BYU just didn't stand a chance. Satuala is an excellent athlete and how she got over looked by Weber, UVU, Utah State and USU is a mystery to me. It would be nice to have Jardine on the BYU roster although she isn't a 6 rotation player or a very good blocker, and Giladlo is the best pin in the state and that includes Claire. I don't think the Utah team is built for the future but right now they are poised to make a NCAA tourney run. Arizona beats KU? BYU is closing in on 10 losses this season. They might get there before the NCAA's. Utah is a better team this year. Next year they won't be. This is why we’re unable to grasp anything that comes out of Marn’s pie hole. He claims to read statistics but obviously doesn't comprehend how they work. He's attempting to downplay the fact that Uluave was their sole player passing all night and appeared to be the only player prepared to pass. Saying she was “just average” makes very little sense, given her stats. She was the only player in S/R who passed without making a single error all night with 15 digs leading the team. They were purposefully ignoring Serving her, cause they knew she was their best passer. She’s definitely a natural athlete might be identified simply by the way she carried herself. She handled so much of the back row on her own. Ellie Mortensen caused five of Utah's 11 errors against BYU, Hannah Billeter caused four, Miller caused one, and Strong caused the last one. Claire Little was undoubtedly the reason they lost. To be able to combat Utah without Little and show how much she is missed. Without Little's assistance, we were able to accumulate enough points to demonstrate how impactful Little’s role is on the team. You definitely can't argue the statistics of the team's performance with or without her. Sit this one out. loversrock - it is very hard to follow your logic with poorly structured sentences and some of them not even being sentences at all. "This is why we can't grasp anything that comes out of" - this is terrible structure and no what even knows that "this" is?? No, "Claire was undoubtedly the reason they lost" - Again makes no sense. Claire wasn't the reason BYU lost, but not having Claire might have been. Just learn to write. "Without Little's assistance, we were able to accumulate enough points to demonstrate how impactful Little's role is on the team" is another example of bizarre writing (bad) - how many points did BYU have to get to .... to demonstrate this? lol Utah wasn't ignoring Lulu in serving because she is so good at s/r - that is a laughable statement. They purposely served at others on the back row because they are bad at s/r and worse than Lulu. Lulu hurt us in passing the ball after s/r. She is probably going to get better but again, I look forward to a true libero arriving on the BYU campus next year, hopefully. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 10, 2024 17:36:42 GMT -5
Little being absent was not the reason Utah won the match. They can pass and s/r ... what did Utah have 8-9 aces? How about that vaunted libero of ours. I actually thought Benson played decently given it is her first real game experience in a pressure situation. Bobik looked ok but Bower's defense is suspect as is our passing .... Miller didn't play much, Billiter had a very poor match, Johnson didn't do too badly, Lulu was very average and with Claire out BYU just didn't stand a chance. Satuala is an excellent athlete and how she got over looked by Weber, UVU, Utah and USU is a mystery to me. It would be nice to have Jardine on the BYU roster, and Giladlo is the best pin in the state and that includes Claire. I don't think the Utah team is build for the future but right now they are poised to make a NCAA tourney run. Arizona beats KU? BYU is closing in on 10 losses this season. They might get there before the NCAA's. Why do you believe that Giladlo is the better pin? To answer your question silver - the stats actually favor Little in kills, kill % and total points. Just not by much. But i think we will see those numbers shift to Kamryn over the next few years. Little isn't in great shape compared to Kamryn and BYU is forced to play Little on the backrow because they can't afford to have her offense off the floor. Kamryn would have higher numbers in those categories than Little does, if she played 6 ro. But, Utah doesn't need her on the floor in the back row. It would be nice if she were a better passer and next year, if she stays at Utah she will probably have to pass. Kamryn is more athletic than Claire and I feel like her upside is significant. What we see with Claire right now is a very good OH but she isn't elite in terms of upside. Kam could get to the next level if she stays on the weights and doesn't get hurt. Claire seems to have problems with durability on and off unlike Kamryn. Just my opinion on the 2 players. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 10, 2024 17:53:22 GMT -5
Little being absent was not the reason Utah won the match. They can pass and s/r ... what did Utah have 8-9 aces? How about that vaunted libero of ours. I actually thought Benson played decently given it is her first real game experience in a pressure situation. Bobik looked ok but Bower's defense is suspect as is our passing .... Miller didn't play much, Billiter had a very poor match, Johnson didn't do too badly, Lulu was very average and with Claire out BYU just didn't stand a chance. Satuala is an excellent athlete and how she got over looked by Weber, UVU, Utah and USU is a mystery to me. It would be nice to have Jardine on the BYU roster, and Giladlo is the best pin in the state and that includes Claire. I don't think the Utah team is build for the future but right now they are poised to make a NCAA tourney run. Arizona beats KU? BYU is closing in on 10 losses this season. They might get there before the NCAA's. You said Johnson didn’t do too badly. She had 4 digs. I’m assuming you think she passed well? I can’t find in the stats passing scores/averages. Am I looking in the wrong place? I chuckled when the announcer said “BYU misses Little passing on the back row.” Amy didn’t correct her 😂. Definitely missed Little in the front, but also her pipes out of the back. It’s a bad match when Kate Prior leads in hitting %. Utah played great. Really great. Their defense was solid. Easier to do when all you have to worry about are high sets to the outside! I agree that it was a little humorous that Gant kept her mouth shut on the comment about missing Little's passing! Utah just played great. That was probably their best match of the season. I thought they would miss that Burgess MB when she transferred to Oklahoma, but I am not sure they do. Passing averages can be found on the vmetrics .... that is what I look at. Johnson (despite the V owner being sore about it) is a decent passer. She isn't great, but if you look at her stats at Utah last season she was better than average in the Pac 12. Do I think she is libero quality, no I don't. Miller is probably not good enough to have been recruited. I shake my head at that decision which was influence by the Carlson guy at V. Nevertheless, BYU just has to find a way to identify passers in recruiting OR grab 2 off the transfer portal. IMO there is less risk for Heather to just go to the portal. As soon at the portal opens I will point some out who can immediately change BYU's program. BYU also needs a top OH who is capable of playing 6 ro. That will be hard to lure one away from going to a better program (everyone wants one) but they could go down to Mid majors and pick off a good one. The other weakness is at Opp. BYU is at their best when they have a dominant Opp. How do you get one? That is why I want to get Lee reps and time out there. Prior isn't it ... although better than Grimmer. Kenzie and Hamson are the mold. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 10, 2024 17:57:11 GMT -5
Little being absent was not the reason Utah won the match. They can pass and s/r ... what did Utah have 8-9 aces? How about that vaunted libero of ours. I actually thought Benson played decently given it is her first real game experience in a pressure situation. Bobik looked ok but Bower's defense is suspect as is our passing .... Miller didn't play much, Billiter had a very poor match, Johnson didn't do too badly, Lulu was very average and with Claire out BYU just didn't stand a chance. Satuala is an excellent athlete and how she got over looked by Weber, UVU, Utah and USU is a mystery to me. It would be nice to have Jardine on the BYU roster, and Giladlo is the best pin in the state and that includes Claire. I don't think the Utah team is build for the future but right now they are poised to make a NCAA tourney run. Arizona beats KU? BYU is closing in on 10 losses this season. They might get there before the NCAA's. 11… Utah had 11 aces. 7 came from Gibadlo alone Yes it was just plain bad. Fortunately, a loss is just a loss. It felt like BYU got beat so bad that it should count as 2 losses and Utah should get 2 wins! |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 10, 2024 18:03:20 GMT -5
Little being absent was not the reason Utah won the match. They can't pass and s/r ... what did Utah have 8-9 aces? How about that vaunted libero of ours? I actually thought Benson played decently given it is her first real game experience in a pressure situation. Bobik looked ok but Bower's defense is suspect as is our passing .... Miller didn't play much, Billiter had a very poor match, Johnson didn't do too badly, Lulu was very average and with Claire out BYU just didn't stand a chance. Satuala is an excellent athlete and how she got over looked by Weber, UVU, Utah and USU is a mystery to me. It would be nice to have Jardine on the BYU roster, and Giladlo is the best pin in the state and that includes Claire. I don't think the Utah team is built for the future but right now they are poised to make a NCAA tourney run. Arizona beats KU? BYU is closing in on 10 losses this season. They might get there before the NCAA's. |
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Nov 12, 2024 4:42:49 GMT -5
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Post by loversrock on Nov 12, 2024 4:42:49 GMT -5
This is why we’re unable to grasp anything that comes out of Marn’s pie hole. He claims to read statistics but obviously doesn't comprehend how they work. He's attempting to downplay the fact that Uluave was their sole player passing all night and appeared to be the only player prepared to pass. Saying she was “just average” makes very little sense, given her stats. She was the only player in S/R who passed without making a single error all night with 15 digs leading the team. They were purposefully ignoring Serving her, cause they knew she was their best passer. She’s definitely a natural athlete might be identified simply by the way she carried herself. She handled so much of the back row on her own. Ellie Mortensen caused five of Utah's 11 errors against BYU, Hannah Billeter caused four, Miller caused one, and Strong caused the last one. Claire Little was undoubtedly the reason they lost. To be able to combat Utah without Little and show how much she is missed. Without Little's assistance, we were able to accumulate enough points to demonstrate how impactful Little’s role is on the team. You definitely can't argue the statistics of the team's performance with or without her. Sit this one out. loversrock - it is very hard to follow your logic with poorly structured sentences and some of them not even being sentences at all. "This is why we can't grasp anything that comes out of" - this is terrible structure and no what even knows that "this" is?? No, "Claire was undoubtedly the reason they lost" - Again makes no sense. Claire wasn't the reason BYU lost, but not having Claire might have been. Just learn to write. "Without Little's assistance, we were able to accumulate enough points to demonstrate how impactful Little's role is on the team" is another example of bizarre writing (bad) - how many points did BYU have to get to .... to demonstrate this? lol Utah wasn't ignoring Lulu in serving because she is so good at s/r - that is a laughable statement. They purposely served at others on the back row because they are bad at s/r and worse than Lulu. Lulu hurt us in passing the ball after s/r. She is probably going to get better but again, I look forward to a true libero arriving on the BYU campus next year, hopefully. If you're going to criticize my grammar rather than admitting you have no idea what you're talking about, at the very least make sure your grammar structures are understandable. “this is terrible structure and no what even knows that "this" is??“ This explains why you write the garbage you do. Your comprehension skills are clearly poor in this area. Sorry, but I can't fix stupid and I’m not going to dummy it down for you. When someone calls you out on your stupidity, you respond with personal attacks to avoid facing the facts. You are as ignorant as they come. Please do everyone a favor and shut up.You are beginning to sound like a hurt little girl. Go cry to someone who cares or get a dictionary. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Nov 12, 2024 17:19:38 GMT -5
loversrock - it is very hard to follow your logic with poorly structured sentences and some of them not even being sentences at all. "This is why we can't grasp anything that comes out of" - this is terrible structure and no what even knows that "this" is?? No, "Claire was undoubtedly the reason they lost" - Again makes no sense. Claire wasn't the reason BYU lost, but not having Claire might have been. Just learn to write. "Without Little's assistance, we were able to accumulate enough points to demonstrate how impactful Little's role is on the team" is another example of bizarre writing (bad) - how many points did BYU have to get to .... to demonstrate this? lol Utah wasn't ignoring Lulu in serving because she is so good at s/r - that is a laughable statement. They purposely served at others on the back row because they are bad at s/r and worse than Lulu. Lulu hurt us in passing the ball after s/r. She is probably going to get better but again, I look forward to a true libero arriving on the BYU campus next year, hopefully. If you're going to criticize my grammar rather than admitting you have no idea what you're talking about, at the very least make sure your grammar structures are understandable. “this is terrible structure and no what even knows that "this" is??“ This explains why you write the garbage you do. Your comprehension skills are clearly poor in this area. Sorry, but I can't fix stupid and I’m not going to dummy it down for you. When someone calls you out on your stupidity, you respond with personal attacks to avoid facing the facts. You are as ignorant as they come. Please do everyone a favor and shut up.You are beginning to sound like a hurt little girl. Go cry to someone who cares or get a dictionary. Dumbasarock - The correct phrase is "dumb it down for you" ......lol |
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Nov 13, 2024 12:46:19 GMT -5
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Post by lucy1014 on Nov 13, 2024 12:46:19 GMT -5
You said Johnson didn’t do too badly. She had 4 digs. I’m assuming you think she passed well? I can’t find in the stats passing scores/averages. Am I looking in the wrong place? I chuckled when the announcer said “BYU misses Little passing on the back row.” Amy didn’t correct her 😂. Definitely missed Little in the front, but also her pipes out of the back. It’s a bad match when Kate Prior leads in hitting %. Utah played great. Really great. Their defense was solid. Easier to do when all you have to worry about are high sets to the outside! I agree that it was a little humorous that Gant kept her mouth shut on the comment about missing Little's passing! Utah just played great. That was probably their best match of the season. I thought they would miss that Burgess MB when she transferred to Oklahoma, but I am not sure they do. Passing averages can be found on the vmetrics .... that is what I look at. Johnson (despite the V owner being sore about it) is a decent passer. She isn't great, but if you look at her stats at Utah last season she was better than average in the Pac 12. Do I think she is libero quality, no I don't. Miller is probably not good enough to have been recruited. I shake my head at that decision which was influence by the Carlson guy at V. Nevertheless, BYU just has to find a way to identify passers in recruiting OR grab 2 off the transfer portal. IMO there is less risk for Heather to just go to the portal. As soon at the portal opens I will point some out who can immediately change BYU's program. BYU also needs a top OH who is capable of playing 6 ro. That will be hard to lure one away from going to a better program (everyone wants one) but they could go down to Mid majors and pick off a good one. The other weakness is at Opp. BYU is at their best when they have a dominant Opp. How do you get one? That is why I want to get Lee reps and time out there. Prior isn't it ... although better than Grimmer. Kenzie and Hamson are the mold. Grammar Marn... seriously, no one's here for grammar. Quit deflecting and getting personal. We aren't here for that garbage. Class it up. Onto the content, I'm hopeful that Tingey ('25) is a straight up talented lib with great passing and defense but I've asked twice now if anyone has seen her play and it's been crickets. Suli ('25) is a great oh coming in and Blairmes ('25) is a lefty oppo who jumps out of the gym. We gotta stay healthy this year. These adds for next year are hopeful. We gotta keep working on our serving. Everyone likes to say how we can't pass but you get better at passing when you serve great. Plus ofc we want serve great to take others out of system. Conversations between gibadlo and little is an interesting one b/c all things being equal... maybe you could figure it out. Say if they were on the same team. I love gibadlo and her explosiveness but legit little gets things done in difficult positions. Again I go back to my comments about Lee, generally being explosive and athletic ally dynamic does not make the best volleyball players. Anyways, little and gibadlo are both excellent and it would be fun to see gibadlo at byu. One can only dream. Haha |
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Post by bbg95 on Nov 13, 2024 12:59:10 GMT -5
I agree that it was a little humorous that Gant kept her mouth shut on the comment about missing Little's passing! Utah just played great. That was probably their best match of the season. I thought they would miss that Burgess MB when she transferred to Oklahoma, but I am not sure they do. Passing averages can be found on the vmetrics .... that is what I look at. Johnson (despite the V owner being sore about it) is a decent passer. She isn't great, but if you look at her stats at Utah last season she was better than average in the Pac 12. Do I think she is libero quality, no I don't. Miller is probably not good enough to have been recruited. I shake my head at that decision which was influence by the Carlson guy at V. Nevertheless, BYU just has to find a way to identify passers in recruiting OR grab 2 off the transfer portal. IMO there is less risk for Heather to just go to the portal. As soon at the portal opens I will point some out who can immediately change BYU's program. BYU also needs a top OH who is capable of playing 6 ro. That will be hard to lure one away from going to a better program (everyone wants one) but they could go down to Mid majors and pick off a good one. The other weakness is at Opp. BYU is at their best when they have a dominant Opp. How do you get one? That is why I want to get Lee reps and time out there. Prior isn't it ... although better than Grimmer. Kenzie and Hamson are the mold. We gotta keep working on our serving. Everyone likes to say how we can't pass but you get better at passing when you serve great. Plus ofc we want serve great to take others out of system. I think BYU has been a good serving team most of the time for the past several seasons. Meanwhile, we haven't been able to pass since 2019 with the exception of a couple of really good to great liberos (Mary Lake in 2019 and Kamaile Hiapo in 2023). Also, I don't think serving well makes you better at passing. Both are very important, but that would be like saying that if you have a good pass rush in football, then you also have a good offensive line. |
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