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Post by maigrey on Oct 28, 2024 15:27:04 GMT -5
Y'all..... this is ridiculous. I could maybe take Hanson (though Colyer had a better hit %/overall stats and Hudson had more kills per set) but overlooking Fuerbringer when Penn State did not have great matches out west (yes, they won, but statistically they were pretty ehhh) and all the other middles (not counting Booth) or even Schumacher's performance just seems like they phoned it in. (Also, they have got to get rid of this "Only award players from teams who win" mindset when it is literally Player of the Week, not Team of the Week!) Just saying we have nebraska this week and PSU next week, we're going to be playing to prove multiple points.  |
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Post by bruinsgold on Oct 28, 2024 15:29:24 GMT -5
I also appreciate Badgers' fans citing my stats from the POTW thread to validate their point At least somebody's reading my posts!! lol |
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Post by Pepperjack on Oct 28, 2024 15:29:26 GMT -5
Who votes on these awards? Coaches?
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Post by gopherhim on Oct 28, 2024 15:37:18 GMT -5
Who votes on these awards? Coaches? Every year you see some jokes about the B1G office being full of interns from [x school]. It's not actually interns voting, right? Like those are joke posts. Right? 😅 |
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Post by bruinsgold on Oct 28, 2024 15:40:05 GMT -5
Who votes on these awards? Coaches? Every year you see some jokes about the B1G office being full of interns from [x school]. It's not actually interns voting, right? Like those are joke posts. Right? 😅It's definitely not coaches! Though they're the ones who submit their players' names for each category, I believe. The coaches do vote for the end of the year All B1G awards IIRC. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 28, 2024 15:46:33 GMT -5
Who votes on these awards? Coaches? Every year you see some jokes about the B1G office being full of interns from [x school]. It's not actually interns voting, right? Like those are joke posts. Right? 😅It's not at all clear who does the selection. If coaches don't submit nominations, players don't get awards, so whoever is selecting is probably not watching all the matches. They are simply weighing the arguments in the nominations. |
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Post by gopherhim on Oct 28, 2024 15:54:16 GMT -5
I wonder what the submission process is. Just giving a name and some stats? Putting together a highlight reel from the week so there's some visual/eye test to go with numbers? A mini pick-me essay pleading your player's case?
Yes it was at home against unranked Northwestern but Hanson's highlight reel for that match was glorious. Best I've ever seen her play offensively. And then in a reverse sweep against Ohio State she really had to put the team on her back for a lot of it. Maybe reverse sweep on the road carried some weight? There must be some intangibles taken into consideration on top of stats. Maybe Oregon's SID missed the deadline. Who knows. Haven't teams even missed deadlines for All-America stat submissions?
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Post by mcmike on Oct 28, 2024 16:19:21 GMT -5
I wonder what the submission process is. Just giving a name and some stats? Putting together a highlight reel from the week so there's some visual/eye test to go with numbers? A mini pick-me essay pleading your player's case? Yes it was at home against unranked Northwestern but Hanson's highlight reel for that match was glorious. Best I've ever seen her play offensively. And then in a reverse sweep against Ohio State she really had to put the team on her back for a lot of it. Maybe reverse sweep on the road carried some weight? There must be some intangibles taken into consideration on top of stats. Maybe Oregon's SID missed the deadline. Who knows. Haven't teams even missed deadlines for All-America stat submissions? |
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Post by huskersoftroy on Oct 28, 2024 17:20:45 GMT -5
Also why and how did Andi Jackson win the defensive award with 1.6 bps on the weekend?? Seems rather ridiculous if the awards are given based on stats. These players all had higher bps than AndI Caroline Crawford - 1.7 bps Carter Booth - 3.0 bps Lourdes Myers - 1.8 bps Natalie Robinson (FRESHMAN) - 1.9 bps I was ready to riot about Robinson being robbed until I saw that hitting percentage 😭 I get it’s DPOW but oof girl |
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Post by tablealgebra on Oct 28, 2024 17:33:53 GMT -5
Also why and how did Andi Jackson win the defensive award with 1.6 bps on the weekend?? Seems rather ridiculous if the awards are given based on stats. These players all had higher bps than AndI Caroline Crawford - 1.7 bps Carter Booth - 3.0 bps Lourdes Myers - 1.8 bps Natalie Robinson (FRESHMAN) - 1.9 bps I was ready to riot about Robinson being robbed until I saw that hitting percentage 😭 I get it’s DPOW but oof girl I wish we had better stats. I know advanced stats aren't really reasonable for scorekeepers to track but counting block touches, and rating block touches and digs by whether they result in a hitting attempt, free ball or overpass/covered block may be? |
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Oct 28, 2024 17:35:00 GMT -5
Also why and how did Andi Jackson win the defensive award with 1.6 bps on the weekend?? Seems rather ridiculous if the awards are given based on stats. These players all had higher bps than AndI Caroline Crawford - 1.7 bps Carter Booth - 3.0 bps Lourdes Myers - 1.8 bps Natalie Robinson (FRESHMAN) - 1.9 bps I was ready to riot about Robinson being robbed until I saw that hitting percentage 😭 I get it’s DPOW but oof girl If we were voting for DPOW based on hitting percentages, it should have gone to Nalani Iosia 😉 |
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Post by badgervb982597 on Oct 28, 2024 17:45:57 GMT -5
Could be - but Smrek had 2.0 bps for the weekend with a win at Purdue (not even counting her offensive numbers for the weekend which were pretty good - noting this is a defensive award) That's for explaining it was a defensive award. /S I truly didn't know if players had to play both matches to be eligible since Booth seemed like an obvious choice. Can someone explain why someone like Smrek who has 2.0bps wouldn’t get the award over Jackson? I struggle to understand is this stats based or is based on who the coaches submit? Because if it’s the latter these awards start to mean less and less imo.. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Oct 28, 2024 17:48:32 GMT -5
That's for explaining it was a defensive award. /S I truly didn't know if players had to play both matches to be eligible since Booth seemed like an obvious choice. Can someone explain why someone like Smrek who has 2.0bps wouldn’t get the award over Jackson? I struggle to understand is this stats based or is based on who the coaches submit? Because if it’s the latter these awards start to mean less and less imo.. I'm fairly certain coaches can only submit one player per category. Sheff had a lot of options but my guess is he went with either Crawford (who had two great blocking matches) or Schumacher who had fantastic dig numbers. |
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Post by gopherhim on Oct 28, 2024 18:18:28 GMT -5
I was ready to riot about Robinson being robbed until I saw that hitting percentage 😭 I get it’s DPOW but oof girl I wish we had better stats. I know advanced stats aren't really reasonable for scorekeepers to track but counting block touches, and rating block touches and digs by whether they result in a hitting attempt, free ball or overpass/covered block may be? Not sure if you've checked out evollve.net yet, but it has some more nitty gritty stats that aren't in box scores that are kind of fun to look at. Stuff like player hitting % in back row vs front row. Team hitting % off player X's serve receptions. Point win % after player X's dig. Etc etc. Doesn't have any extra block touch stats though womp womp |
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Post by potato518 on Oct 28, 2024 19:01:22 GMT -5
HALFWAY THROUGH THE B1G GAUNTLET | TEAM | MATCH 1 | MATCH 2 | | Nebraska (10-0) | @ Wisconsin* | @ Northwestern | | Penn State (10-0) | v. Michigan* | v. Iowa | | Wisconsin (9-1) | v. Nebraska* | @ Illinois | | Oregon (8-2) | @ Washington* | v. UCLA* | | Minnesota (7-3) | @ Michigan State | @ Michigan | | Purdue (7-3) | @ Maryland* | @ Rutgers | | Illinois (6-4) | @ Northwestern | v. Wisconsin | | Michigan (6-4) | @ Penn State* | v. Minnesota | | USC (6-4) | @ UCLA* | v. Washington | | Washington (6-4) | v. Oregon* | @ USC | | UCLA (4-6) | v. USC* | @ Oregon* | | Indiana (3-7) | @ Rutgers | @ Maryland | | Iowa (3-7) | @ Ohio State* | @ Penn State | | Northwestern (2-8) | v. Illinois | v. Nebraska | | Maryland (1-9) | v. Purdue* | v. Indiana | | Michigan State (1-9) | v. Minnesota | v. Ohio State | | Ohio State (1-9) | v. Iowa* | @ Michigan State | | Rutgers (0-10) | v. Indiana | v. Purdue |
* will air on BTN WED OCT 30 Michigan @ Penn State 7:30PM BTNOregon @ Washington 9:30PM BTN
THU OCT 31 Iowa @ Ohio State 7:30PM BTNSouthern California @ UCLA 9:30PM BTNFRI NOV 1 Indiana @ Rutgers 1PM Minnesota @ Michigan State 6PM Iowa @ Penn State 6:30PM Purdue @ Maryland 6:30PM BTNIllinois @ Northwestern 8PM Nebraska @ Wisconsin 9PM BTN
SAT NOV 2 Purdue @ Rutgers 7PM Indiana @ Maryland 7PM UCLA @ Oregon 11PM BTNSUN NOV 3 Ohio State @ Michigan State 12PM Nebraska @ Northwestern 1PM Wisconsin @ Illinois 2PM Minnesota @ Michigan 2PM Washington @ Southern California 4PM thank you so much for your service!!! |
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