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Post by wilbur on Mar 18, 2024 22:58:25 GMT -5
Not sure they have to but it souds possible depending future match results and results of BW tourney. If GCU loses a few more matches and UCI wins the BW tourney that could be scenario for double BW at large bids. What if GCU wins the MPSF tournament and UCI runs the table in the BWC tournament? I would think that, because of RPI, UCLA would be a lock for one of the two at large births. The other at large birth, a toss up between LB St. and Hawaii, would be a difficult decision for the selection committee to make. Agree. My assumptions are based on UCLA winning MPSF tourney. I would be shocked if they don't but it is possible and why they play the games. |
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Post by soljah808 on Mar 19, 2024 0:09:44 GMT -5
Not sure they have to but it souds possible depending future match results and results of BW tourney. If GCU loses a few more matches and UCI wins the BW tourney that could be scenario for double BW at large bids. What if GCU wins the MPSF tournament and UCI runs the table in the BWC tournament? I would think that, because of RPI, UCLA would be a lock for one of the two at large births. The other at large birth, a toss up between LB St. and Hawaii, would be a difficult decision for the selection committee to make. In that scenario the selection committee wouldn't have a difficult choice at all. They would choose LBSU based off of the 2-0 series against UH and also because they are NCAA hosts. I wouldn't like that as a Hawaii fan but that's what would happen in all likely hood. |
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Post by volleyguy on Mar 19, 2024 0:38:16 GMT -5
What if GCU wins the MPSF tournament and UCI runs the table in the BWC tournament? I would think that, because of RPI, UCLA would be a lock for one of the two at large births. The other at large birth, a toss up between LB St. and Hawaii, would be a difficult decision for the selection committee to make. In that scenario the selection committee wouldn't have a difficult choice at all. They would choose LBSU based off of the 2-0 series against UH and also because they are NCAA hosts. I wouldn't like that as a Hawaii fan but that's what would happen in all likely hood. Of course. My first thought was, that wouldn’t be a hard choice at all. Actually, my first thought was, UCI run the table? I can’t stop laughing. |
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Post by mmvb805 on Mar 19, 2024 0:49:13 GMT -5
In that scenario the selection committee wouldn't have a difficult choice at all. They would choose LBSU based off of the 2-0 series against UH and also because they are NCAA hosts. I wouldn't like that as a Hawaii fan but that's what would happen in all likely hood. Of course. My first thought was, that wouldn’t be a hard choice at all. Actually, my first thought was, UCI run the table? I can’t stop laughing. I’m hoping for UCI and UCLA to win their respective conferences, with Hawaii and LBSU getting the at-large bids. I hate to think that UCI could potentially not make it with the season that Henno is having |
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Post by volleyguy on Mar 19, 2024 1:11:48 GMT -5
Of course. My first thought was, that wouldn’t be a hard choice at all. Actually, my first thought was, UCI run the table? I can’t stop laughing. I’m hoping for UCI and UCLA to win their respective conferences, with Hawaii and LBSU getting the at-large bids. I hate to think that UCI could potentially not make it with the season that Henno is having They’d have to win out and/or win the tourney to make it, and that’s a long shot. |
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Post by mmvb805 on Mar 19, 2024 1:48:38 GMT -5
I’m hoping for UCI and UCLA to win their respective conferences, with Hawaii and LBSU getting the at-large bids. I hate to think that UCI could potentially not make it with the season that Henno is having They’d have to win out and/or win the tourney to make it, and that’s a long shot. If UCI loses the Big West championship, I think the next at large would be between UCI and GCU, assuming GCU doesn’t win their conference. These games in the next few weeks are crucial for them |
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Post by volleyguy on Mar 19, 2024 1:54:54 GMT -5
They’d have to win out and/or win the tourney to make it, and that’s a long shot. If UCI loses the Big West championship, I think the next at large would be between UCI and GCU, assuming GCU doesn’t win their conference. These games in the next few weeks are crucial for them UCI has a great SOS, but a lot of losses. I don’t think they’re positioned all that well outside of an auto bid, but a lot of things can still happen. |
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Post by mmvb805 on Mar 19, 2024 2:11:18 GMT -5
If UCI loses the Big West championship, I think the next at large would be between UCI and GCU, assuming GCU doesn’t win their conference. These games in the next few weeks are crucial for them UCI has a great SOS, but a lot of losses. I don’t think they’re positioned all that well outside of an auto bid, but a lot of things can still happen. I’ll be curious to see what happens if UCI wins a majority of their games left, but loses the BW championship, whereas GCU loses to UCLA and maybe a couple more |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Mar 19, 2024 8:12:44 GMT -5
I think if GUC loses to UCLA, they are not well positioned to take one of the at-large bids given the head-to-head with UCI and Hawai'i. UCI still has to play the Beach and Hawai'i, a lot can happen there.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Mar 19, 2024 11:55:09 GMT -5
it's so hard to gauge, there are always some unexpected losses, like Hawaii or Beach losing to UCSD as an example
for now, UCLA & Beach would be the two at-larges, in Beach cases the strength of their top 5 and top 10 record
in UCLA's case a combo of SOS and top 5, top 10 record.
GCU beats UCLA twice, that changes things
UCI goes 4-0, maybe 3-1 vs. Beach & Hawaii, that changes things. 4-0 seems like a bit of a pipe dream though. an 8 loss UCI is plausable, not just very probable. Had UCI beat Hawaii already, it'd be an entirely different story.
Hawaii sweeps UCI and gets to the BWCT final, that puts them in a good position, even compared to UCLA
essentially each of the 5 teams controls their own destiny, just one of the 5 can not be in the NCAAs, and possibly two (yikes) could be left out, it's not inconceivable for Stanford or BYU or Pepperdine having a run in the MPSF tourney. I just don't see anyone but Haw/Beach/Irvine winning the BWCT, and Hawaii has really good HCA in that tourney. hard to know which team will be left without a chair to sit on when the music stops
Have to add, Hawaii is fighting right now just to get to at least a 2 seed in the BWCT. whoever is a 3 seed has to win 3 games in 3 days, can be done, but for Hawaii to do it without Chakas this year would be really tough. That Hawaii-Irvine series is going to be huge to see who gets to at least a 2 seed, which is like gold in the tournament. No 3 or lower seed has ever won the BWCT. In fact the 2 seed has won every BWCT played in Hawaii: in 2019 (Hawaii), 2021 (SB), 2022 (Hawaii). another meaningless statistic, lol. Irvine has a decent chance this year to get the 1 seed for the BWCT.
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Post by Logan Tom Fan on Mar 19, 2024 16:20:41 GMT -5
The only thing that’s for certain is GCU would have to win the MPSF to get in. Because if UCLA does, regardless of who wins the Big West - Hawai’i, Beach, and Irvine, the other two should get the at-larges.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Mar 20, 2024 14:57:36 GMT -5
The only thing that’s for certain is GCU would have to win the MPSF to get in. Because if UCLA does, regardless of who wins the Big West - Hawai’i, Beach, and Irvine, the other two should get the at-larges. that's not true, premature. even though GCU lost to Irvine and Hawaii, if they beat UCLA at least once, they may end up with a better overall resume than UCI or Hawaii, or maybe Beach lots of Volleyball left. last year, GCU played a horrendously home heavy schedule. This year, it's a very good road/neutral schedule, and their SOS is much better. sheesh, they only have 2 losses, let's say they beat UCLA and end up with only 4 losses after teh MPSF tourney that UCLA wins. my guess is they'd be at least the last at-large in that scenario. IRvine/Hawaii/Beach collectively are going to as a group have at least 5 more, maybe 6 or 7 more losses distributed among that group. |
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Post by wilbur on Mar 20, 2024 16:16:42 GMT -5
The only thing that’s for certain is GCU would have to win the MPSF to get in. Because if UCLA does, regardless of who wins the Big West - Hawai’i, Beach, and Irvine, the other two should get the at-larges. that's not true, premature. even though GCU lost to Irvine and Hawaii, if they beat UCLA at least once, they may end up with a better overall resume than UCI or Hawaii, or maybe Beach lots of Volleyball left. last year, GCU played a horrendously home heavy schedule. This year, it's a very good road/neutral schedule, and their SOS is much better. sheesh, they only have 2 losses, let's say they beat UCLA and end up with only 4 losses after teh MPSF tourney that UCLA wins. my guess is they'd be at least the last at-large in that scenario. IRvine/Hawaii/Beach collectively are going to as a group have at least 5 more, maybe 6 or 7 more losses distributed among that group. At least 6 losses, UCI plays both 2x so 4 losses and after the BW tourney at least 2 of the teams will have another loss so 2 more there. If UCSB, UCSD or CSUN snipes one of more along the way that adds to the totals |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Mar 20, 2024 18:17:59 GMT -5
that's not true, premature. even though GCU lost to Irvine and Hawaii, if they beat UCLA at least once, they may end up with a better overall resume than UCI or Hawaii, or maybe Beach lots of Volleyball left. last year, GCU played a horrendously home heavy schedule. This year, it's a very good road/neutral schedule, and their SOS is much better. sheesh, they only have 2 losses, let's say they beat UCLA and end up with only 4 losses after teh MPSF tourney that UCLA wins. my guess is they'd be at least the last at-large in that scenario. IRvine/Hawaii/Beach collectively are going to as a group have at least 5 more, maybe 6 or 7 more losses distributed among that group. At least 6 losses, UCI plays both 2x so 4 losses and after the BW tourney at least 2 of the teams will have another loss so 2 more there. If UCSB, UCSD or CSUN snipes one of more along the way that adds to the totals true that |
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Post by robonthemic on Mar 21, 2024 12:08:11 GMT -5
I drop this here because the coaching panel on the vODcast had interesting takes on the tournament. IF I did this correctly the video SHOULD start right at the segment we did called "If you (the coaches) were on the NCAA Committee" what it could look like with an 8 and 12-team tournament. If you're going on the podcast it will be around the 36:30 mark...
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