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Post by vinnielopes on Mar 21, 2024 13:19:52 GMT -5
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Post by soljah808 on Mar 21, 2024 14:42:02 GMT -5
Thank you! So Hawaii continues to have the edge over both UCI and GCU so long as they keep winning! We see what happens. |
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Post by ManapuaSurprise on Mar 21, 2024 15:25:20 GMT -5
Road record: Long Beach State 3-1; Hawai’i 3-2 Edge: Grand Canyon |
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Post by vinnielopes on Mar 21, 2024 16:16:53 GMT -5
lol!!!! Shouldn’t have copy edited while watching Bad Batch last night. Thanks for letting me know that typo.
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Post by ManapuaSurprise on Mar 21, 2024 17:07:51 GMT -5
lol!!!! Shouldn’t have copy edited while watching Bad Batch last night. Thanks for letting me know that typo. KPI ranking: Long Beach State No. 3 (0.459); Hawai’i No. 4 (0.413). Edge: Hawai’i |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Mar 31, 2024 16:19:15 GMT -5
Top 12 resumes:
Ball State is #12 in KPI & Massey, so with Ball State as top of MIVA, making the cut-off top 12. 8-12 includes Ohio State, PSU, Stan, Ball State, Pepp,
UCLA: top 12: 12-3. at-large/road record. 6-2, SOS = 4
Beach: top 12: 5-1, at-large/road record. 0-1, best road win. George Mason SOS = 15
GCU: top 12: 4-2, road record, 2-2, SOS =11
Haw: top 12: 6-3, road record, 1-2, SOS = 19
right now, would be pretty hard to see UCLA not a #1 seed. GCU/UCLA & Irvine vs. Haw/Beach matches will have a huge impact since it's all pretty close.
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Post by MonroeClark90 on Apr 1, 2024 8:03:53 GMT -5
Is the NCAA tourney expansion to 12 set for a certain season or does it depend on other factors? The fact that 1 of those 5 teams will be at home watching is criminal.
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Post by gtrich on Apr 1, 2024 11:16:55 GMT -5
Is the NCAA tourney expansion to 12 set for a certain season or does it depend on other factors? The fact that 1 of those 5 teams will be at home watching is criminal. In one of Rob's podcast's from earlier this year, I think Dan Friend said a 12 team tournament had been approved in theory, but the budget for it has not been approved. I don't remember if he said it could have been 12 this year, but they didn't have money for it, or if it was approved for 12 for next year and they haven't approved the budget for it. |
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Apr 6, 2024 16:32:34 GMT -5
This is a very important weekend for the teams trying to get the at-large. Let’s assume that GCU and Hawaii are losing again tonight and neither will win their conference tournament, which one of them would/should get that last at-large spot?
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Post by robonthemic on Apr 6, 2024 16:51:34 GMT -5
This is a very important weekend for the teams trying to get the at-large. Let’s assume that GCU and Hawaii are losing again tonight and neither will win their conference tournament, which one of them would/should get that last at-large spot? That's going to be a hard one to peg out even now. We still have to wait for the winner of the Big West Championship-- and with the way the year has gone ANY team can flip the switch. CSUN, UCSD and UCSB have the potential to knock off any of the current top 3 in the BW. Long Beach St. currently looks to be the favorite to win the tournament, but with the matches in Hawaii anything can happen. As far as the MPSF, I want to see how GCU responds tonight. Then the Lopes finish up the season with two hosting Pepperdine-- with the final night being a senior night (which always seems to be an x-factor). |
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Post by soljah808 on Apr 6, 2024 17:56:48 GMT -5
This is a very important weekend for the teams trying to get the at-large. Let’s assume that GCU and Hawaii are losing again tonight and neither will win their conference tournament, which one of them would/should get that last at-large spot? I mean Hawaii is tailspinning a bit rn. But like Rob mentioned....the BWCT is being played at the Stan and you can never ever count Hawaii out especially in the tournament. So to assume both GCU and or Hawaii won't win the tournament may seem like the case now....but that's why we play the game. Anything can happen and all the Big West teams knows it. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 7, 2024 13:14:35 GMT -5
Updated:
Resumes of the primary at-large contenders. Drawing the line @ #12 for resumes. Why? Ball State is #12 in Massey & KPI, and is the MIVA reg season champion, so #12 encompasses Ball STate/Ohio State/Loyola. the category of 'teams in tourney or under consideration' is just horrible, especially considering how having one or the other MIVA team on your resume is such a big swinger. Like if Ohio State does not win the MIVA tourney, UCLA gets a loss thrown away, lol. or if Ball State doesn't win, Hawaii loses a valuable road win? just a horrendously idiotic category in terms of looking a resume to ahve that type of stuff looked at.
SOS: (Massey)
Irvine #2
UCLA #5
GCU #7
Long Beach #11
Hawaii #15
note Hawaii & Beach particularly have home heavy schedules, they can't afford road losses
Top 12 KPI Records as the cutoff for now, since MIVA leader Ball State is at #12.
UCLA: 14-3 top 12, KPI #1, the SOS, the quality wins, hard to see they don't get in, so Speraw can change the line-up 10 more times if he wants.
Irvine: 6-4 #2, KPI #4 SOS and will be the top SOS of all the at-large considered teams
GCU: 4-4, KPI #3 (very solid road/neutral schedule this year, last year as way too home heavy), KPI is keeping them in it, I think they have to beat Pepperdine 2x, and get to the MPSF finals against UCLA, but what does beating BYU or Stanford a 3rd time really do for the resume, if they don't have a top 5 win? they have no chance now to beat UCLA in the MPSF tourney, unless it's for the title.
Beach: 5-1 KPI # 2 (not a great road schedule this year), I think they need to beat Irvine 1x to get a guaranteed spot IMO, even then with GCU/Hawaii/Irvine losses they are in good shape, but nothing is ever guaranteed. They won't end up with a bad loss. Would a committee put a 9 loss Irvine in over a 4 loss Beach potentially?
Hawaii: 7-4, KPI #6
likely NCAA tourney, if today.
#1: Beach (if Beach wins BWCT, and beats Irvine)
#2: UCLA (if Beach does not win BWCT)
#3: Hawaii
#4: GCU (the most tenuous at-large bid)
#5: Penn State (maybe GMU, who drops to #6)
#6: Ball State (MIVA toss-up), could move to #5
#7: Belmont Abbey
#8: Fort Valley
I just don't see any other teams (BYU & Pepperdine) playing their way in at this point as an at-large, after BYU lost to USC, and Pepperdine lost to Masters. Or Penn State, who is at 3-4 vs. top 12, with no remaining top 12 matches
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Post by wilbur on Apr 7, 2024 13:38:53 GMT -5
Updated: Resumes of the primary at-large contenders. Drawing the line @ #12 for resumes. Why? Ball State is #12 in Massey & KPI, and is the MIVA reg season champion, so #12 encompasses Ball STate/Ohio State/Loyola. the category of 'teams in tourney or under consideration' is just horrible, especially considering how having one or the other MIVA team on your resume is such a big swinger. Like if Ohio State does not win the MIVA tourney, UCLA gets a loss thrown away, lol. or if Ball State doesn't win, Hawaii loses a valuable road win? just a horrendously idiotic category in terms of looking a resume to ahve that type of stuff looked at. SOS: (Massey) Irvine #2 UCLA #5 GCU #7 Long Beach #11 Hawaii #15 note Hawaii & Beach particularly have home heavy schedules, they can't afford road losses Top 12 KPI Records as the cutoff for now, since MIVA leader Ball State is at #12. UCLA: 14-3 top 12, KPI #1, the SOS, the quality wins, hard to see they don't get in, so Speraw can change the line-up 10 more times if he wants. Irvine: 6-4 #2, KPI #4 SOS and will be the top SOS of all the at-large considered teams GCU: 4-4, KPI #3 (very solid road/neutral schedule this year, last year as way too home heavy), KPI is keeping them in it, I think they have to beat Pepperdine 2x, and get to the MPSF finals against UCLA, but what does beating BYU or Stanford a 3rd time really do for the resume, if they don't have a top 5 win? they have no chance now to beat UCLA in the MPSF tourney, unless it's for the title. Beach: 5-1 KPI # 2 (not a great road schedule this year), I think they need to beat Irvine 1x to get a guaranteed spot IMO, even then with GCU/Hawaii/Irvine losses they are in good shape, but nothing is ever guaranteed. They won't end up with a bad loss. Would a committee put a 9 loss Irvine in over a 4 loss Beach potentially? Hawaii: 7-4, KPI #6 likely NCAA tourney, if today. #1: Beach (if Beach wins BWCT, and beats Irvine) #2: UCLA (if Beach does not win BWCT) #3: Hawaii #4: GCU (the most tenuous at-large bid) #5: Penn State (maybe GMU, who drops to #6) #6: Ball State (MIVA toss-up), could move to #5 #7: Belmont Abbey #8: Fort Valley I just don't see any other teams (BYU & Pepperdine) playing their way in at this point as an at-large, after BYU lost to USC, and Pepperdine lost to Masters. Or Penn State, who is at 3-4 vs. top 12, with no remaining top 12 matches This looks exactly how I see it. I saw UCI's frustration last night, they knew that match was a big deal and might end up ending their season early. If Flexen shook off the tumble sooner, or Knifen went with Akhil game 3 & 4 instead of only switching the setter game 4, I think they would have been less frustrated. Another year with a tournament worthy roster, and on the ropes again. |
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Post by trojansc on Apr 7, 2024 13:58:27 GMT -5
Updated: Resumes of the primary at-large contenders. Drawing the line @ #12 for resumes. Why? Ball State is #12 in Massey SOS: (Massey) Irvine #2 UCLA #5 GCU #7 Long Beach #11 Hawaii #15 Does the committee actually use Massey? |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Apr 7, 2024 14:18:38 GMT -5
Updated: Resumes of the primary at-large contenders. Drawing the line @ #12 for resumes. Why? Ball State is #12 in Massey SOS: (Massey) Irvine #2 UCLA #5 GCU #7 Long Beach #11 Hawaii #15 Does the committee actually use Massey? No |
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