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Post by beaaaaast on Aug 5, 2014 11:45:10 GMT -5
I already know that her coach was quoted as saying "she wasn't happy." I quoted him in the very beginning of this post. Restating what you already said earlier in this post as factual proof doesn't make what you said more true. Without any articles, interviews, or direct words from Paulina, you're just going off your own assumptions. I'm sorry but this is preposterous. I gave no opinion, conjecture or assumptions. I stated the facts "as we know them" Those facts would be her coach saying she wasn't happy, and that after visiting a few schools she chose Texas. Anyone saying anything other than that would be making assumptions, I made none. "Paulina no longer felt PSU was the best fit for her looked at and visited other schools and ultimately chose Texas to continue her playing career." Did you visit the schools with her? Were you there when she decided Texas was going to be the brand new D1 volleyball school she was going to join? Didn't think so. Unless you can give me articles, interviews, or direct words from Paulina, you're going off what YOU THINK happened. Not what YOU KNOW happened.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 12:04:00 GMT -5
I'm sorry but this is preposterous. I gave no opinion, conjecture or assumptions. I stated the facts "as we know them" Those facts would be her coach saying she wasn't happy, and that after visiting a few schools she chose Texas. Anyone saying anything other than that would be making assumptions, I made none. "Paulina no longer felt PSU was the best fit for her looked at and visited other schools and ultimately chose Texas to continue her playing career." Did you visit the schools with her? Were you there when she decided Texas was going to be the brand new D1 volleyball school she was going to join? Didn't think so. Unless you can give me articles, interviews, or direct words from Paulina, you're going off what YOU THINK happened. Not what YOU KNOW happened. I'm sorry, beaaaaast, the phrase "as we know them" pretty much encompasses the point you seem to think has eluded Dorothy: it implicitly acknowledges that the facts "as we know them" might be incomplete or inaccurate -- but that doesn't mean they are invented.
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Post by corky on Aug 5, 2014 12:17:13 GMT -5
An earlier post said RR didn't like errors and she made them. There isn't a coach in the land who likes errors but based on some of the matches I watched the last couple of seasons there are players who are allowed to make errors and stay on the court and those who aren't. Paulina apparently fell into the latter category.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 5, 2014 12:22:12 GMT -5
I'm sorry but this is preposterous. I gave no opinion, conjecture or assumptions. I stated the facts "as we know them" Those facts would be her coach saying she wasn't happy, and that after visiting a few schools she chose Texas. Anyone saying anything other than that would be making assumptions, I made none. "Paulina no longer felt PSU was the best fit for her looked at and visited other schools and ultimately chose Texas to continue her playing career." Did you visit the schools with her? Were you there when she decided Texas was going to be the brand new D1 volleyball school she was going to join? Didn't think so. Unless you can give me articles, interviews, or direct words from Paulina, you're going off what YOU THINK happened. Not what YOU KNOW happened. Deep breath...................are you suggesting that she didn't choose Texas after visiting schools? Did I need to be there to know she decided to go to Texas? There are in fact articles stating she chose Texas and left PSU because she wasn't happy, including quotes from both head coaches. Those articles are available in this thread. I don't think Paulina left PSU to go to Texas, I know she did. I still have no idea what you think I am suggesting or speculating on? In fact I am baffled.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 5, 2014 12:24:56 GMT -5
I'm sorry but this is preposterous. I gave no opinion, conjecture or assumptions. I stated the facts "as we know them" Those facts would be her coach saying she wasn't happy, and that after visiting a few schools she chose Texas. Anyone saying anything other than that would be making assumptions, I made none. "Paulina no longer felt PSU was the best fit for her looked at and visited other schools and ultimately chose Texas to continue her playing career." Did you visit the schools with her? Were you there when she decided Texas was going to be the brand new D1 volleyball school she was going to join? Didn't think so. Unless you can give me articles, interviews, or direct words from Paulina, you're going off what YOU THINK happened. Not what YOU KNOW happened. "Paulina no longer felt PSU was the best fit for her looked at and visited other schools and ultimately chose Texas to continue her playing career." This is the quote you are calling me for as being speculative. The part about it not being the best fit comes from her coach, the part of her going to Texas comes from her coach, multiple news releases. What part again is coming from me?
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Post by bkedane on Aug 5, 2014 12:30:00 GMT -5
I'm sorry but this is preposterous. I gave no opinion, conjecture or assumptions. I stated the facts "as we know them" Those facts would be her coach saying she wasn't happy, and that after visiting a few schools she chose Texas. Anyone saying anything other than that would be making assumptions, I made none. "Paulina no longer felt PSU was the best fit for her looked at and visited other schools and ultimately chose Texas to continue her playing career." Did you visit the schools with her? Were you there when she decided Texas was going to be the brand new D1 volleyball school she was going to join? Didn't think so. Unless you can give me articles, interviews, or direct words from Paulina, you're going off what YOU THINK happened. Not what YOU KNOW happened. So your position is that if a coach at a school she considered tells me she considered his school but chose texas, I don't know based on this that she did consider the school in question and choose Texas? Because it's not in an article online and because I was not present when she talked with the coach? That's really the *only* way someone can know something?
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Post by OptimusPrime on Aug 5, 2014 12:42:50 GMT -5
Frankly, I was shocked when she chose PSU! I never thought that it was a good decision or the right place for her! and I think i mentioned it here and got plenty of $#!@ for it. Having said that, I hope Texas turns out to be a better choice for her. I would have considered Miami or Florida as a better option as well but I get that she wants a big change. Her back row play is definitely the area in question. How much that has improved or will improve, is yet to be determined.
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Post by jsn112 on Aug 5, 2014 12:52:29 GMT -5
Frankly, I was shocked when she chose PSU! I never thought that it was a good decision or the right place for her! and I think i mentioned it here and got plenty of $#!@ for it. Having said that, I hope Texas turns out to be a better choice for her. I would have considered Miami or Florida as a better option as well but I get that she wants a big change. Her back row play is definitely the area in question. How much that has improved or will improve, is yet to be determined. How is PSU not a good choice for her? Because she has decided to transfer? Is there something more specific other than playing time that you know of?
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 5, 2014 12:54:59 GMT -5
"Paulina no longer felt PSU was the best fit for her looked at and visited other schools and ultimately chose Texas to continue her playing career." Did you visit the schools with her? Were you there when she decided Texas was going to be the brand new D1 volleyball school she was going to join? Didn't think so. Unless you can give me articles, interviews, or direct words from Paulina, you're going off what YOU THINK happened. Not what YOU KNOW happened. So your position is that if a coach at a school she considered tells me she considered his school but chose texas, I don't know based on this that she did consider the school in question and choose Texas? Because it's not in an article online and because I was not present when she talked with the coach? That's really the *only* way someone can know something? I don't understand this question, and I also don't have a position, a fact that seems to be alluding some folks. Based on the facts as we know them 1. Her collegiate coach stated she left because she wasn't happy. 2. She elected to attend the University of Texas. This isn't my position, or opinion. They are the facts as we know them. I have nothing more to add, because there isn't anything more to add. ANYONE saying anything other than what I said, has an opinion or a position. If you take exception to what I stated, you would need to take that up with Coach Rose who gave a reason she left, or Coach Elliot who acknowledged she has joined Texas.
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Post by southie on Aug 5, 2014 12:57:34 GMT -5
Someone has to replace Bailey Webster (who was only a front row player) at OH. While most have penciled in Tiffany Baker as a starting OH for 2014, we have yet to see her in a (non-Spring) match as she spent all of 2013 and much of 2014 rehabbing. At Opposite, there are a lot of options if Chiaka is moved to the middle; so, a starting sport could be up for grabs. I think Paulina walks in and immediately competes for a starting pin-hitter spot. With the 6-2 offense most likely being what we'll see to open the season, that increases Prieto's chances of seeing immediate floor time. After Eckerman, we just don't have returning pin-hitters with the size and skills Elliott prefers. If 5'11 Pilar Victoria and 5'9 Amy Neal found opportunities to hit in last season's 6-2 offense, Paulina and Tiffany should have no issues in 2014 (assuming no health concerns). Granted, Pilar and Neal played all 6-rotations during that time. From a pure power and strength perspective, Paulina packs more punch than Baker, Dalton, Pilar, and Neal. I expect her to win a starting spot. But who is going to PASS? This really doesn't change with Paulina's addition. If she's a direct substitute for Bailey Webster, passing won't be her responsibility. Unlike Webster, Paulina would probably stay in for one rotation to take advantage of her jump serve. As far as backrow players, only Sarah Palmer departed. Kat Brooks, Amy Neal, Pilar Victoria, and Eckerman will play some back row just like they did last season. Freshman libero, Cat McCoy basically replaces Sarah Palmer. Nicole Dalton is a very good passer, but would only do so if she's not setting, I imagine. Tiffany Baker played all 6-rotations while at Tennessee, if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by azvb on Aug 5, 2014 13:13:15 GMT -5
Paulina Prieto Cerame has decided to leave the Penn State Nittany Lions to play for the Texas Longhorns. Here's the article: www.centredaily.com/2014/08/04/4291512/penn-state-volleyball-prieto-cerame.html?sp=/99/146/“(Paulina) wasn’t happy and I wish her well,” Rose said in an email. It isn't the first time an athlete has left a well-respected sports program to play for another. The only logical reason why I can think Paulina would transfer is to get more playing time. She was one of the top recruits a few years ago and I always wondered why Russ didn't give her more playing time. I hope she is happy in Texas. Any other reasons you can think of that could explain why Paulina left the Nittany Lions? How about good Mexican Food ... She'd tranfer to ASU or Arizona for good Mexican food.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 5, 2014 13:15:11 GMT -5
Mexican food =/ Puerto Rican food
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Post by bkedane on Aug 5, 2014 13:59:22 GMT -5
So your position is that if a coach at a school she considered tells me she considered his school but chose texas, I don't know based on this that she did consider the school in question and choose Texas? Because it's not in an article online and because I was not present when she talked with the coach? That's really the *only* way someone can know something? I don't understand this question, and I also don't have a position, a fact that seems to be alluding some folks. Based on the facts as we know them 1. Her collegiate coach stated she left because she wasn't happy. 2. She elected to attend the University of Texas. This isn't my position, or opinion. They are the facts as we know them. I have nothing more to add, because there isn't anything more to add. ANYONE saying anything other than what I said, has an opinion or a position. If you take exception to what I stated, you would need to take that up with Coach Rose who gave a reason she left, or Coach Elliot who acknowledged she has joined Texas. I was asking beaaaaast the question. Not you. You have said what is straightforwardly true in this situation. Paulina decided to leave. She considered some schools including Texas and eventually chose Texas. Beaaaaast says we don't know these things because we weren't there with Paulina when she considered other schools. I know several schools Paulina considered. I know she chose Texas. I know some of her reason for leaving Penn State. Beaaaaast says no one knows these things except people who were there with Paulina when it all happened.
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Post by bkedane on Aug 5, 2014 14:00:55 GMT -5
So your position is that if a coach at a school she considered tells me she considered his school but chose texas, I don't know based on this that she did consider the school in question and choose Texas? Because it's not in an article online and because I was not present when she talked with the coach? That's really the *only* way someone can know something? I don't understand this question, and I also don't have a position, a fact that seems to be alluding some folks. Based on the facts as we know them 1. Her collegiate coach stated she left because she wasn't happy. 2. She elected to attend the University of Texas. This isn't my position, or opinion. They are the facts as we know them. I have nothing more to add, because there isn't anything more to add. ANYONE saying anything other than what I said, has an opinion or a position. If you take exception to what I stated, you would need to take that up with Coach Rose who gave a reason she left, or Coach Elliot who acknowledged she has joined Texas. The tough clue that I was asking beaaaaast the question and not you is that I quoted him when asking the question and asked a question about what he said. I did not quote you and I did not ask any question about what you said.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 5, 2014 14:07:21 GMT -5
But who is going to PASS? This is what I think is gonna happen. They'll start in a 6-2 with Bell and McCage on the right, Hattis and Ogbogu in the middle, and Eckerman and Paulina on the left. They'll realize they don't have the ball control for it and scrap it by conference play. They'll then switch to a 5-1 with Dalton setting, McCage on the right, Bell and Ogbogu in the middle and Eckerman and Paulina both 6-rotation outsides. Eckerman looked technically better at serve recieve in the spring game and I'm hoping Paulina can be serviceable as both will have 1-2 rotations with 2 other defensive specialists back there with them (probably McCoy at libero and Brooks as DS for McCage) Interesting. Why do you think that if they start with the 6-2, by time conference play comes around they will scrap it? If anything that is when they should work on the 6-2, if that is what is going to maximize their points (I don't think so, but I digress). The big 12 is not a power conference, Texas doesn't have to worry about 85% of their matches, regardless of which system they run. Heck even their preseason this year isn't going to leave them scrambling with the only matches they could lose is to Nebraska and Florida, and given that both of those matches are away matches for Texas in the preseason, they stand a good chance of losing them even in a 5-1. I guess my point is that if Elliot and staff want to go with a 6-2, they should go with a 6-2 and not change it come conference play.
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