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Post by strikestwice on Oct 21, 2014 13:05:39 GMT -5
Has MVC put out who is coaching which age group for them yet?
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Post by bradk on Oct 21, 2014 14:30:35 GMT -5
Well since the forum discussion has been so good I will share some information with everyone.
Not all spots are finalized since we have so many coaches with High School conflicts, but we have a pretty good idea where people will fall. Right now we have coaches grouped by ages then at tryouts we will know more who will go where. This is always subject to change, but here is where we stand at the moment. We are planning for at least 2 teams at the age levels 14 and up. We will be prepared to have 3 teams at the 15,16 and 17 age levels if necessary.
We are still finalizing some other coaches as well.
18's - Jake Nowak, Brad Kuehl, Bobby Vranek, Dan Mulachy 17's - Brian Rushmer, Phil Lambe, Kyle Ullsperger, Jimmy Sweeney 16's - Jim Plaisted, Aaron Lang, Rey Speller, Tony Bichler 15's - Kyle Olmstead, Blake Wachi, Tyler Frings, Joe Coplan 14's - Jon Nowak, Will Cotter, Alyssa Zickert 13's and 12's - Kevin Perhach, Molly Hogan, Suzanne Lilly
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Post by dividedwefall on Oct 21, 2014 14:45:53 GMT -5
A tough team to beat: OPP: Klassen, Turner OH: Instenes, Hoppe, Heinen (Is he done with club?), Caldwell (get him to commute from Middleton-LOL) MH: Schroeder, Mason, Coenen, Smallpage S: Romano L: Wessel i see a ceiling of catching the right matchup on day 3 and sneaking into gold before losing in a quarterfinal match. certainly nothing wrong with that. realistically probably a silver level team.
same with wherever the core of the lightning 16 (as of last year, so 17 this year) group ends up.
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Post by vbsetter2012 on Oct 21, 2014 20:42:11 GMT -5
"the group that won nationals at 16 and 18 was the most dominant team i have ever seen their 16s year in any age group. they literally beat teams that finished tied for 5th in the 18s division that season as a 16s team." Amazing what happens when the talent from this area COMBINES isn't it? there are no schnecks, novotny's, or either middles from that team that are anywhere close to as good as those 4 were at their position in any age group in wisconsin. that was a once in a lifetime age group for this area. just to put it into perspective, 7 players from that age group have gone on to a division 1/2 volleyball program. in the 5 years prior to that class there weren't even 7 total players to go to d1/2 volleyball programs from the state of wisconsin. the team was so stacked that the best competition for their starters were their backups. that is not the case with many teams from Wisconsin (or the Midwest in general) which is why you sometimes see a Wisconsin/Midwest team dominate throughout the Midwest season and then go out to California/nationals and finish middle of the pack. competition is a good thing. I may be alone here, but I doubt it. I believe Scott Stadick is at the same level as either Olsen or Kaminski were at this age (he may actually be ahead). He was the only sophomore on the youth national team, and started, and was named best blocker at the NORCECA championships.
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Post by dividedwefall on Oct 21, 2014 20:51:35 GMT -5
there are no schnecks, novotny's, or either middles from that team that are anywhere close to as good as those 4 were at their position in any age group in wisconsin. that was a once in a lifetime age group for this area. just to put it into perspective, 7 players from that age group have gone on to a division 1/2 volleyball program. in the 5 years prior to that class there weren't even 7 total players to go to d1/2 volleyball programs from the state of wisconsin. the team was so stacked that the best competition for their starters were their backups. that is not the case with many teams from Wisconsin (or the Midwest in general) which is why you sometimes see a Wisconsin/Midwest team dominate throughout the Midwest season and then go out to California/nationals and finish middle of the pack. competition is a good thing. I may be alone here, but I doubt it. I believe Scott Stadick is at the same level as either Olsen or Kaminski were at this age (he may actually be ahead). He was the only sophomore on the youth national team, and started, and was named best blocker at the NORCECA championships. I stand corrected. forgot about scott as he does not have a high school team to play for so out of site out of mind. he is the #1 recruit in that class and will be able to choose wherever he wants to go. my money is on loyola but irvine has a good shot too. but those surrounding him are not on the same level as the schnecks, novotnys, and kirchners that that lightning team had.
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Post by vbsetter2012 on Oct 21, 2014 20:58:39 GMT -5
A tough team to beat: OPP: Klassen, Turner OH: Instenes, Hoppe, Heinen (Is he done with club?), Caldwell (get him to commute from Middleton-LOL) MH: Schroeder, Mason, Coenen, Smallpage S: Romano L: Wessel i see a ceiling of catching the right matchup on day 3 and sneaking into gold before losing in a quarterfinal match. certainly nothing wrong with that. realistically probably a silver level team.
same with wherever the core of the lightning 16 (as of last year, so 17 this year) group ends up.
Really, for last year's Lightning 16's? Let's see....last 3 year's at Nationals are 5th, 3rd and 9th; at SCVA Boys Junior, 9th, 7th and 3rd. I believe they are only one or two players away.... In the last two years they have beaten, at one time or another, almost all of the top Cali teams (SCVC, Balboa, 949, Pali, HBC) as well as San Juan, Coqui.
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Post by vbsetter2012 on Oct 21, 2014 21:01:14 GMT -5
I may be alone here, but I doubt it. I believe Scott Stadick is at the same level as either Olsen or Kaminski were at this age (he may actually be ahead). He was the only sophomore on the youth national team, and started, and was named best blocker at the NORCECA championships. I stand corrected. forgot about scott as he does not have a high school team to play for so out of site out of mind. he is the #1 recruit in that class and will be able to choose wherever he wants to go. my money is on loyola but irvine has a good shot too. but those surrounding him are not on the same level as the schnecks, novotnys, and kirchners that that lightning team had. Definitely agree on the Loyola thought....comes in right after Olsen graduates.
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Post by dividedwefall on Oct 22, 2014 7:54:05 GMT -5
i see a ceiling of catching the right matchup on day 3 and sneaking into gold before losing in a quarterfinal match. certainly nothing wrong with that. realistically probably a silver level team.
same with wherever the core of the lightning 16 (as of last year, so 17 this year) group ends up.
Really, for last year's Lightning 16's? Let's see....last 3 year's at Nationals are 5th, 3rd and 9th; at SCVA Boys Junior, 9th, 7th and 3rd. I believe they are only one or two players away.... In the last two years they have beaten, at one time or another, almost all of the top Cali teams (SCVC, Balboa, 949, Pali, HBC) as well as San Juan, Coqui. so they lost in the 1st round of gold 3 and 2 years ago and then were in silver last year. so...sounds like a ceiling of catching the right matchup to get into gold and losing the first round of gold there is probably right on?
as you get older it becomes harder to continue to compete with the best of the best. they play the game well and are fundamentally sound, but they are starting to get very small, especially on the pins/at the setter position. the only plus size they have is stadick.
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Post by pancakesandgators on Oct 22, 2014 13:19:07 GMT -5
there are no schnecks, novotny's, or either middles from that team that are anywhere close to as good as those 4 were at their position in any age group in wisconsin. that was a once in a lifetime age group for this area. just to put it into perspective, 7 players from that age group have gone on to a division 1/2 volleyball program. in the 5 years prior to that class there weren't even 7 total players to go to d1/2 volleyball programs from the state of wisconsin. the team was so stacked that the best competition for their starters were their backups. that is not the case with many teams from Wisconsin (or the Midwest in general) which is why you sometimes see a Wisconsin/Midwest team dominate throughout the Midwest season and then go out to California/nationals and finish middle of the pack. competition is a good thing. I may be alone here, but I doubt it. I believe Scott Stadick is at the same level as either Olsen or Kaminski were at this age (he may actually be ahead). He was the only sophomore on the youth national team, and started, and was named best blocker at the NORCECA championships. I think many people forget that Kaminski really was not an elite middle until his senior year of high school. He was good during his Junior season and 17's year but Kirchner and Olson were a step above him. Stadick has a natural instinct that I think is amazing and you can't teach that height, but I worry about his physicality moving forward. NORCECA and playing at the NCAA D1 level are two very different speeds. Though Kaminski, Kirchner, and Olson somewhat were on that thinner side, they seemed to have a little more muscle mass and athleticism. I'm hoping he can continue to get in the gym and progress there. Would love to see another Wisconsin product make a splash at the college scene and possibly beyond.
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Post by strikestwice on Oct 22, 2014 13:27:09 GMT -5
Kaminski really did come into his own in his last year of HS and Club, but has improved a ton more since then. There are a lot of college coaches who thought he would be a good player going forward, but I am not sure many saw him being as good as he is right now. That isn't meant to be a knock on him at all, all the credit to him for putting in all of the work and effort, and I hope he continues to improve going forward. It was great to see him matched up against Olson in the NCAA Finals for sure. As for Stadick, I think that at this point, he is better than Olson, Kirchner, and Kaminski were when they were 16/early 17s. The biggest thing with him is will he be able to get physically stronger going forward, all 3 of them made huge strides towards the end of their 17s/beginning of their 18s year. I think that kid has the talent and potential to be really great as long as his physicality can catch up. If it does, he could be scary good.
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Post by libero21 on Nov 17, 2014 0:12:23 GMT -5
A tough team to beat: OPP: Klassen, Turner OH: Instenes, Hoppe, Heinen (Is he done with club?), Caldwell (get him to commute from Middleton-LOL) MH: Schroeder, Mason, Coenen, Smallpage S: Romano L: Wessel
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