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Post by jay on Jun 5, 2017 2:42:38 GMT -5
I think Karsta is good enough that she can afford to take up to the first 2 years off from the USA/Pro in this quad if she needs to - as long as she keeps herself in 'volleyball' shape. If she doesn't play Club volleyball or NT volleyball I don't think she would have enough growth as a player to be able to compete and help the team in this next quad. Plus right now we have one of the top 3 OP's in the world who is a US citizen and that person doesn't even get an invite into the gym. Something is clearly wrong with the leadership of the USNT and hopefully the new CEO Jamie Davis, once he figures out what's going on in the organization, will make the necessary changes so that our best and most promising players will want to be in the gym.
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Post by jay on Jun 5, 2017 2:56:34 GMT -5
Yeah, what happened to megan Easy?!! Megan ended last years Italian season with a fairly serious knee injury which kept her off of the Rio squad. She played this season for Zhu's old Chinese team which did not qualify for the playoffs. Next year she will join the Italian team Imoco and join with Hill and Samy Bricio to form a formidable challenge to Vakif as a competitor in the CL season as well as a strong contender to repeat as the Italian champions. Their is really no need for any of the top US players to play in the first year of the quad and that includes Hooker. Now next year when the WC rolls around is when we will really see what Coach K is planning.
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Post by trojansc on Jun 5, 2017 3:16:03 GMT -5
The bigger concern is this. In the past year, Lowe, Kreklow, Hagglund, Vansant have all left the national team gym and retired at a young age. Any consideration to this being a generational thing? All of those I believe are 24 and under. Perhaps they would rather not have to live overseas to make a living playing volleyball. Or maybe they'd rather do "real life" things like work a more regular job and have their own family. Just throwing that out there. Hagglund still plays Beach
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Post by gobruins on Jun 5, 2017 3:30:02 GMT -5
So, when you say she's getting a graduate degree in architecture, are you talking about M.Arch? Or is she pursuing the basic B.Arch? If so, the B.Arch is not a graduate degree; it's your basic 5-year degree after completing requirements at an architecture school. She must've gotten a degree in something other than architecture to be pursuing an M.Arch (which doesn't require a B.Arch), which is a 3-4 year program. B.Arch or M.Arch, but not K.arch. I am really sick of all the Karch bashing. But...that was pretty funny!
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Post by 5280volleyball on Jun 5, 2017 22:46:06 GMT -5
The bigger concern is this. In the past year, Lowe, Kreklow, Hagglund, Vansant have all left the national team gym and retired at a young age. Any consideration to this being a generational thing? All of those I believe are 24 and under. Perhaps they would rather not have to live overseas to make a living playing volleyball. Or maybe they'd rather do "real life" things like work a more regular job and have their own family. Just throwing that out there. It's entirely possible. Kreklow's engagement played a big role in her (and Josh Taylor's) decision to hang up the Mizunos in my opinion. I wonder if all the craziness in the world these days plays a part in that too. Look at someone like Lowe....I'd think that 3-4 more years of hanging out in Europe and making good money playing volleyball would be the dream life. Architecture school is still going to be there in 5 years, then you've gotten to live abroad in your early 20's, have a couple Olympic medals, and possibly enough cash that you don't need to do anything but study your way through grad school.
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Post by Fight On! on Jun 5, 2017 22:58:24 GMT -5
Any consideration to this being a generational thing? All of those I believe are 24 and under. Perhaps they would rather not have to live overseas to make a living playing volleyball. Or maybe they'd rather do "real life" things like work a more regular job and have their own family. Just throwing that out there. It's entirely possible. Kreklow's engagement played a big role in her (and Josh Taylor's) decision to hang up the Mizunos in my opinion. I wonder if all the craziness in the world these days plays a part in that too. Look at someone like Lowe....I'd think that 3-4 more years of hanging out in Europe and making good money playing volleyball would be the dream life. Architecture school is still going to be there in 5 years, then you've gotten to live abroad in your early 20's, have a couple Olympic medals, and possibly enough cash that you don't need to do anything but study your way through grad school. Zygmunt Bauman, who introduced the idea of liquid modernity, wrote that its characteristics are about the individual, namely increasing feelings of uncertainty and the privatization of ambivalence. It is a kind of chaotic continuation of modernity, where a person can shift from one social position to another in a fluid manner. Nomadism becomes a general trait of the 'liquid modern' man as he flows through his own life like a tourist, changing places, jobs, spouses, values and sometimes more—such as political or sexual orientation—excluding himself from traditional networks of support, while also freeing himself from the restrictions or requirements those networks impose. Bauman stressed the new burden of responsibility that fluid modernism placed on the individual—traditional patterns would be replaced by self-chosen ones.[8] Entry into the globalized society was open to anyone with their own stance and the ability to fund it, in a similar way as was the reception of travellers at the old-fashioned caravanserai. The result is a normative mindset with emphasis on shifting rather than on staying—on provisional in lieu of permanent (or 'solid') commitment—which (the new style) can lead a person astray towards a prison of their own existential creation. Wikipedia
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Post by ironhammer on Jun 5, 2017 23:04:26 GMT -5
It's entirely possible. Kreklow's engagement played a big role in her (and Josh Taylor's) decision to hang up the Mizunos in my opinion. I wonder if all the craziness in the world these days plays a part in that too. Look at someone like Lowe....I'd think that 3-4 more years of hanging out in Europe and making good money playing volleyball would be the dream life. Architecture school is still going to be there in 5 years, then you've gotten to live abroad in your early 20's, have a couple Olympic medals, and possibly enough cash that you don't need to do anything but study your way through grad school. Zygmunt Bauman, who introduced the idea of liquid modernity, wrote that its characteristics are about the individual, namely increasing feelings of uncertainty and the privatization of ambivalence. It is a kind of chaotic continuation of modernity, where a person can shift from one social position to another in a fluid manner. Nomadism becomes a general trait of the 'liquid modern' man as he flows through his own life like a tourist, changing places, jobs, spouses, values and sometimes more—such as political or sexual orientation—excluding himself from traditional networks of support, while also freeing himself from the restrictions or requirements those networks impose. Bauman stressed the new burden of responsibility that fluid modernism placed on the individual—traditional patterns would be replaced by self-chosen ones.[8] Entry into the globalized society was open to anyone with their own stance and the ability to fund it, in a similar way as was the reception of travellers at the old-fashioned caravanserai. The result is a normative mindset with emphasis on shifting rather than on staying—on provisional in lieu of permanent (or 'solid') commitment—which (the new style) can lead a person astray towards a prison of their own existential creation. Wikipedia Whoa, why are we suddenly going into heavy sociological materials? There must be a lot ''of social capital" in that, hehe.
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Post by Gilmoy on Jun 5, 2017 23:30:23 GMT -5
Centuries later, Skynet adhered to Zygmunt's principles in creating the liquid future ...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 20:51:56 GMT -5
Any consideration to this being a generational thing? All of those I believe are 24 and under. Perhaps they would rather not have to live overseas to make a living playing volleyball. Or maybe they'd rather do "real life" things like work a more regular job and have their own family. Just throwing that out there. It's entirely possible. Kreklow's engagement played a big role in her (and Josh Taylor's) decision to hang up the Mizunos in my opinion. I wonder if all the craziness in the world these days plays a part in that too. Look at someone like Lowe....I'd think that 3-4 more years of hanging out in Europe and making good money playing volleyball would be the dream life. Architecture school is still going to be there in 5 years, then you've gotten to live abroad in your early 20's, have a couple Olympic medals, and possibly enough cash that you don't need to do anything but study your way through grad school. Seriously? How much do these girls make playing volleyball in Europe?
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Post by Sorry Ass Sal on Jun 9, 2017 20:54:13 GMT -5
It's entirely possible. Kreklow's engagement played a big role in her (and Josh Taylor's) decision to hang up the Mizunos in my opinion. I wonder if all the craziness in the world these days plays a part in that too. Look at someone like Lowe....I'd think that 3-4 more years of hanging out in Europe and making good money playing volleyball would be the dream life. Architecture school is still going to be there in 5 years, then you've gotten to live abroad in your early 20's, have a couple Olympic medals, and possibly enough cash that you don't need to do anything but study your way through grad school. Seriously? How much do these girls make playing volleyball in Europe? Not sure, but this seems more like a case of lacking the desire to play anymore.
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Post by Wiswell on Jun 9, 2017 21:04:15 GMT -5
I would assume the number of athletes making a truly liveable salary in Europe is probably a small group. Would Lowe be in that group?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jun 9, 2017 21:04:57 GMT -5
I would assume the number of athletes making a truly liveable salary in Europe is probably a small group. Would Lowe be in that group? Easily.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 9, 2017 21:18:18 GMT -5
I would assume the number of athletes making a truly liveable salary in Europe is probably a small group. Would Lowe be in that group? There are quite a few. A truly livable wage is different when your wage comes AFTER rent/transport/food are already covered (and you have no student loans). Karsta was an elite, highly paid player. Players of her caliber in the league she played in are getting 300-500K for an 8 month season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 21:20:31 GMT -5
we know, Zhu and Kim makes over 1 million. I heard that Larson and Kosheleva were making around that much as well.
Some players in China and Japan can make a lot. I heard that Mihajlovic and Fe Garay made 500K in China.
Hooker will make USS230K and Faucett USS90k in Brazil.
I don`t know the salary of a average player in Europe, but I would guess maybe they make around USS100K or a little less? But I think young players, especially those coming off NCAA makes very very little money even when playing in Italy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 21:23:42 GMT -5
I would assume the number of athletes making a truly liveable salary in Europe is probably a small group. Would Lowe be in that group? There are quite a few. A truly livable wage is different when your wage comes AFTER rent/transport/food are already covered (and you have no student loans). Karsta was an elite, highly paid player. Players of her caliber in the league she played in are getting 300-500K for an 8 month season. Oh no... there`s no way they would be making 300-500K. Only a few players makes this much, I read that Rasic makes 350k in Vakifibank, and that is because she`s probably the best MB right now. There`s no way that Lowe would make this much, if she was making this much money I doubt she would quite. She would leave the NT but she would still be playing.
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