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Post by notperfect on May 30, 2018 10:39:56 GMT -5
Can anyone provide a prediction for Orlando AAU Junior Nationals and perhaps overview of recent play on top 4 clubs? I know Munciana has been a huge favorite for a while. Has anything changed based on recent tournaments? Would love to be able to keep up with the top clubs.
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Post by BuckysHeat on May 30, 2018 13:35:04 GMT -5
Top teams will be Munciana, Circle City, K2, OT 18 T Aaron, SPVB 18 E. I predict Munci will win it all but taht's about as far as I have looked.
Only 22 teams registered for 18 Open this year; there were 34 last year, 35 in 2016 and 39 in 2015
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Post by rainbowbadger on May 30, 2018 13:38:01 GMT -5
Only 22 teams registered for 18 Open this year; there were 34 last year, 35 in 2016 and 39 in 2015 GJNC moving to April is having the desired effect, I think.
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Post by sandman32 on May 30, 2018 14:10:57 GMT -5
Hopefully AAU will follow suit.
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Post by n00b on May 30, 2018 14:24:45 GMT -5
Hopefully AAU will follow suit. Why? What's bad about having two options? Not all schools require their kids to report early and not everybody can attend the last week in April due to proms. Plus, if you have kids that play up on the 18s, they still need to get recruited in the summer (especially with the new extended quiet periods).
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Post by BuckysHeat on May 30, 2018 14:32:14 GMT -5
Clubs that have been in 18Open each of the last 3 years but are not this year: A5 181 Bob Illini Elite 18 Cardinal Northern Lights 18-1 Mn Select 18-1
Only 951 Elite (Ca) and WVBA (Wa) from west of the Rockies are coming; Neb Jrs is the only other team from west of the Mississippi (Minnesota does not count).
While not a persistent team, Fusion has no teams in 18 Open but they did not in 2016 either - 18 Black is playing in premier this time
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Post by n00b on May 30, 2018 14:37:00 GMT -5
Top teams will be Munciana, Circle City, K2, OT 18 T Aaron, SPVB 18 E. I predict Munci will win it all but taht's about as far as I have looked. Only 22 teams registered for 18 Open this year; there were 34 last year, 35 in 2016 and 39 in 2015 FaR Out had a very good showing at SPVB last weekend, losing in the finals to the hosts. They're either in that group or very close behind. Alliance is also pretty good.
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Post by silversurfer on May 30, 2018 14:37:48 GMT -5
Top teams will be Munciana, Circle City, K2, OT 18 T Aaron, SPVB 18 E. I predict Munci will win it all but taht's about as far as I have looked. Only 22 teams registered for 18 Open this year; there were 34 last year, 35 in 2016 and 39 in 2015 Has there been a dip in any other age groups?
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Post by BuckysHeat on May 30, 2018 14:45:59 GMT -5
Top teams will be Munciana, Circle City, K2, OT 18 T Aaron, SPVB 18 E. I predict Munci will win it all but taht's about as far as I have looked. Only 22 teams registered for 18 Open this year; there were 34 last year, 35 in 2016 and 39 in 2015 Has there been a dip in any other age groups? increase over last year in 14 and 15 open, decrease in 16 and 17 open. Overall same number of teams in 14-17 open. I did not look at the other divisions yet because many have >100 teams (example: 16 classic has ~140 teams registered this year, there were 128 last year)
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Post by notperfect on Jun 11, 2018 14:36:55 GMT -5
Top teams will be Munciana, Circle City, K2, OT 18 T Aaron, SPVB 18 E. I predict Munci will win it all but taht's about as far as I have looked. Only 22 teams registered for 18 Open this year; there were 34 last year, 35 in 2016 and 39 in 2015
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Post by notperfect on Jun 11, 2018 14:39:31 GMT -5
Circle City very impressive with 3 B1G commits plus Stanford! 6'3 and 6'7 middles. Munciana has destroyed the competition this year however. They have been a force consistently since at least the 80s.
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Post by maɡˈnōlēə on Jun 11, 2018 16:58:08 GMT -5
I apologize for the off topic veer but so,ething I read triggered me on something that drives me nuts
The trend where teams play open for league but play down in large tournaments. I'm looking at a few of you in the Chicago area, you know who you are. That may be a reason why the # of team in open divisions are dropping. I suspect there needs to be some regulation when it comes to crossing down in divisions. Maybe allow teams to play up for the competition aspect and getting better but not allow teams to play down.
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Post by eazy on Jun 11, 2018 18:17:23 GMT -5
I apologize for the off topic veer but so,ething I read triggered me on something that drives me nuts The trend where teams play open for league but play down in large tournaments. I'm looking at a few of you in the Chicago area, you know who you are. That may be a reason why the # of team in open divisions are dropping. I suspect there needs to be some regulation when it comes to crossing down in divisions. Maybe allow teams to play up for the competition aspect and getting better but not allow teams to play down. This is a very challenging issue to deal with. One of the major perks of AAUs is that you don't have to qualify for any division, so you can make travel arrangements 7 months ahead to cut costs. However, because they do not control over what division you are allowed to play in, they do not limit teams from dropping down. There is no easy fix for this or it would have probably been done. It's basically the honor system of playing in the correct division but some clubs care more about having inflated numbers on their website than challenging their athletes. These are the teams that win a division without dropping a set. In theory you could say if a team wins a division without dropping a set, that team would have to play up a level the next year, but because the team may not return the same players, that might be unfair if they lose a few of their best players and are forced to play above their level. So again, there is still no easy fix. You would hope that the athletes/parents/coaches/club directors would care more about challenging their athletes than winning trophies, but that is not always the case.
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Post by jasonr on Jun 11, 2018 18:18:46 GMT -5
There should be more uncertainty in outcomes due to many seniors already joining their college teams, correct?
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Post by BuckysHeat on Jun 11, 2018 18:22:53 GMT -5
I apologize for the off topic veer but so,ething I read triggered me on something that drives me nuts The trend where teams play open for league but play down in large tournaments. I'm looking at a few of you in the Chicago area, you know who you are. That may be a reason why the # of team in open divisions are dropping. I suspect there needs to be some regulation when it comes to crossing down in divisions. Maybe allow teams to play up for the competition aspect and getting better but not allow teams to play down. This is a very challenging issue to deal with. One of the major perks of AAUs is that you don't have to qualify for any division, so you can make travel arrangements 7 months ahead to cut costs. However, because they do not control over what division you are allowed to play in, they do not limit teams from dropping down. There is no easy fix for this or it would have probably been done. It's basically the honor system of playing in the correct division but some clubs care more about having inflated numbers on their website than challenging their athletes. These are the teams that win a division without dropping a set. In theory you could say if a team wins a division without dropping a set, that team would have to play up a level the next year, but because the team may not return the same players, that might be unfair if they lose a few of their best players and are forced to play above their level. So again, there is still no easy fix. You would hope that the athletes/parents/coaches/club directors would care more about challenging their athletes than winning trophies, but that is not always the case. My thought is that you play up in every tourney you can and play the toughest competition possible during the "regular season", medals are inconsequential. However by the time nationals rolls around you know where you would do best and play the division you fit in in an attempt to win it all. This is not always possible with 18's but it is with every other division.
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