VOLLEYTALK Top 25 NCAA Ranking - week 4 - 9/17

[huskerjen]

Sept 17, 2018 23:42:54 GMT -5 vbkahuna said:

That question will be answered soon. Nebraska, in two weeks, to start.

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In two weeks the answer will still be no.
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[Barefoot In Kailua]

Sept 17, 2018 22:01:47 GMT -5 rodbcantu said:

Sept 17, 2018 19:58:03 GMT -5 Barefoot In Kailua said:

Nebraska swept Oregon. That’s a big win.

not to be rude, but since when has beating Oregon been a big win? They’re higher teens (18) in ranking... that’s not impressive...

They’re higher teens in the AVCA poll. Not to be rude but the AVCA poll is crap. The VT poll has them in the top 10. As Cruz’n mentioned above, they have a win over Minnesota and no bad losses. All of their loses are to top 8 teams (Nebraska, Penn State, and Texas). Oregon is a very talented team that could possibly finish in the Top 2 of the PAC 12. Nebraska sweeping Oregon IS a big win.

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Sept 17, 2018 23:52:51 GMT -5 Barefoot In Kailua said:

Sept 17, 2018 22:01:47 GMT -5 rodbcantu said:

not to be rude, but since when has beating Oregon been a big win? They’re higher teens (18) in ranking... that’s not impressive...

They’re higher teens in the AVCA poll. Not to be rude but the AVCA poll is crap. The VT poll has them in the top 10. As Cruz’n mentioned above, they have a win over Minnesota and no bad losses. All of their loses are to top 8 teams (Nebraska, Penn State, and Texas). Oregon is a very talented team that could possibly finish in the Top 2 of the PAC 12. Nebraska sweeping Oregon IS a big win.

For the last 2 weeks, AVCA has ranked Oregon at #12. RichKern, VT, and my ballot, have them at #10.

[vbkahuna]

Sept 17, 2018 23:50:09 GMT -5 huskerjen said:

Sept 17, 2018 23:42:54 GMT -5 vbkahuna said:

That question will be answered soon. Nebraska, in two weeks, to start.

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In two weeks the answer will still be no.
😁

Your confidence is admirable...but if you recall...

9/6/18
#7   Nebraska 22 19 25 25 15

#14 Creighton 25 25 18 22 10

9/15/18
#10 Creighton 25 21 21 23

#8   Illinois     19 25 25 25

Not 2017 any more. Not the same Illinois you remember. Should be a good one.

[huskerjen]

Sept 18, 2018 0:22:28 GMT -5 vbkahuna said:

Sept 17, 2018 23:50:09 GMT -5 huskerjen said:

************SPOILER ALERT**************



In two weeks the answer will still be no.
😁

Your confidence is admirable...but if you recall...

9/6/18
#7   Nebraska 22 19 25 25 15

#14 Creighton 25 25 18 22 10

9/15/18
#10 Creighton 25 21 21 23

#8   Illinois     19 25 25 25

Not 2017 any more. Not the same Illinois you remember. Should be a good one.

Repost that after the match and tell me if it mattered.

[Cruz'n]

Sept 17, 2018 23:42:54 GMT -5 vbkahuna said:

Very objectively, it's understandable why the AVCA and VT polls continue to draw the line for Illinois at #8 despite their excellent early results. They played 5 of the 7 teams ahead of them last year (Stanford, Nebraska, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Minnesota) a total of 7 times and only won once (Minnesota). So even though they have now beaten 5 teams that were or are top 25, the jury is still out on whether they can beat those 7 teams ahead of them. Fair enough.

That question will be answered soon. Nebraska, in two weeks, to start.

I'm sure voters consider last season results when preparing the preseason poll. I hope they are not looking to last year when deciding how to vote on any other poll. 

I don't care who Illinois beat last year, or who beat them. 

[Millennium]

Sept 17, 2018 22:41:40 GMT -5 hammer said:

Sept 17, 2018 21:45:28 GMT -5 Millennium said:

I think Penn State is ranked too high in most polls.

After watching them play American on Saturday, I'd say they are #9-11 range.

Wasn't that without Nia Reed? If so, 9-11 might be right without her, but with her I'd place them higher.

Yes, but one extended injury and they'll be in trouble.

[bruinsgold]

Sept 18, 2018 0:22:28 GMT -5 vbkahuna said:

Sept 17, 2018 23:50:09 GMT -5 huskerjen said:

************SPOILER ALERT**************



In two weeks the answer will still be no.
😁

Your confidence is admirable...but if you recall...

9/6/18
#7   Nebraska 22 19 25 25 15

#14 Creighton 25 25 18 22 10

9/15/18
#10 Creighton 25 21 21 23

#8   Illinois     19 25 25 25

Not 2017 any more. Not the same Illinois you remember. Should be a good one.

I'm not swaying one way or the other but didn't Nebraska play Creighton at Creighton? And wasn't Nebraska without Lexi Sun for that match too?

Didn't Illinois have Creighton at Huff Hall? At full strength?

In two weeks it'll be a good match, but let's not use just a final stat line to compare what strengths these two top teams have when it comes to match ups.

[donut]

Sept 17, 2018 20:15:42 GMT -5 notwvb said:

Sept 17, 2018 20:04:17 GMT -5 donut said:

Here’s mine. I moved Stanford back to #1 - after beating Texas soundly twice, their resume is just too good. I stand by Illinois at 4 - their biggest question coming into the season was elite pin hitters and boy have Quade and Cooney been like HELLO!

I tend to not punish teams for losing to squads ranked better than them - hence why I still have Louisville and UNI ranked. I don’t really stand by that but neither team has question mark losses like Georgia, Alabama, Colorado, Utah, etc. do.

1. Stanford
2. BYU
3. Wisconsin
4. Illinois
5. Nebraska
6. Penn State
7. Texas
8. Minnesota
9. Pittsburgh
10. Florida
11. Southern Cal
12. Oregon
13. Creighton
14. Washington
15. Marquette
16. Cal Poly
17. Kentucky
18. UCLA
19. Michigan
20. Baylor
21. Purdue
22. Colorado
23. Louisville
24. Washington State
25. UNI

How is Bama's lone loss- to Purdue with a Pablo of 19 - questionable?  It was predictable Bama would get spanked by the Boilermakers, even at home.  They don't, and shouldn't, rank because they've yet to have a quality win.  

You're right, my b.  Shouldn't have grouped them in with rest.

[oldmanred]

Sept 17, 2018 23:52:51 GMT -5 Barefoot In Kailua said:

Sept 17, 2018 22:01:47 GMT -5 rodbcantu said:

not to be rude, but since when has beating Oregon been a big win? They’re higher teens (18) in ranking... that’s not impressive...

They’re higher teens in the AVCA poll. Not to be rude but the AVCA poll is crap. The VT poll has them in the top 10. As Cruz’n mentioned above, they have a win over Minnesota and no bad losses. All of their loses are to top 8 teams (Nebraska, Penn State, and Texas). Oregon is a very talented team that could possibly finish in the Top 2 of the PAC 12. Nebraska sweeping Oregon IS a big win.

IMO; all polls are crap! Teams are different from day to day; and no matter how hard you try; you can't predict how players respond from one day to the next. You can only get a pretty good idea on how consistent they are!

GO HUSKERS

[vbprisoner]

Did not have time to post my individual rankings the last couple days but below was my week 4 rankings.

1. Stanford - when they are focus they will beat anybody.
2. BYU - they have great execution
3. Wisconsin - many weapons offensively, defense is catching up.
4. Nebraska - Haven't had a challenging preseason schedule, but wins over Oregon, Creighton
5. Texas - I didn't ding them as much for losing to my #1 twice and #3 on road.
6. Minnesota - I guess I have more faith in SSS, Samedy, and Hugh than some others.
7. Illinois - Have not had a real test of a top ten opponent, but have many top 11 - 25 wins.
8. Penn St. - they played well in loss against my #1, but not very difficult schedule to date
9. Pittsburgh - Some quality wins and no losses.
10. Florida - I still believe they are a top 10 team
11. USC - Have some really nice wins, and feel they are second best team in PAC
12. Oregon - only losses are to teams in top 8.
13. Michigan - undefeated, but not a great preseason schedule so still some questions
14. Creighton - really played tough preseason and believe they are top 15
15. Baylor - does have bad loss, but some high quality wins.
16. Marquette - some high quality wins, and only losses to teams above them.
17. Kentucky - Still think they are dangerous
18. Cal Poly - only loss is to Pitt and two wins over UCLA, but not too challenging of a preseason
19. Washington - they moved up because others have lost but this feels right.
20. UCLA - they play consistent and will move up
21. Purdue - undefeated, but best win is 3-2 at home over Louisville.
22. Washington St. - moved them back for ETSU loss
23. LMU - only loss is 3-2 loss to Cal Poly
24. Colorado - 8-3 - two key players out so they will improve when players return or drop out.
25. Louisville - 4 losses to teams all ranked above them - but still a good team

[minncoach]

Sept 19, 2018 10:48:25 GMT -5 vbprisoner said:

Did not have time to post my individual rankings the last couple days but below was my week 4 rankings.

1. Stanford - when they are focus they will beat anybody.
2. BYU - they have great execution
3. Wisconsin - many weapons offensively, defense is catching up.
4. Nebraska - Haven't had a challenging preseason schedule, but wins over Oregon, Creighton
5. Texas - I didn't ding them as much for losing to my #1 twice and #3 on road.
6. Minnesota - I guess I have more faith in SSS, Samedy, and Hugh than some others.
7. Illinois - Have not had a real test of a top ten opponent, but have many top 11 - 25 wins.
8. Penn St. - they played well in loss against my #1, but not very difficult schedule to date
9. Pittsburgh - Some quality wins and no losses.
10. Florida - I still believe they are a top 10 team
11. USC - Have some really nice wins, and feel they are second best team in PAC
12. Oregon - only losses are to teams in top 8.
13. Michigan - undefeated, but not a great preseason schedule so still some questions
14. Creighton - really played tough preseason and believe they are top 15
15. Baylor - does have bad loss, but some high quality wins.
16. Marquette - some high quality wins, and only losses to teams above them.
17. Kentucky - Still think they are dangerous
18. Cal Poly - only loss is to Pitt and two wins over UCLA, but not too challenging of a preseason
19. Washington - they moved up because others have lost but this feels right.
20. UCLA - they play consistent and will move up
21. Purdue - undefeated, but best win is 3-2 at home over Louisville.
22. Washington St. - moved them back for ETSU loss
23. LMU - only loss is 3-2 loss to Cal Poly
24. Colorado - 8-3 - two key players out so they will improve when players return or drop out.
25. Louisville - 4 losses to teams all ranked above them - but still a good team


Love that you have Minnesota in the #6 spot, ahead of Illinois and Penn State - I'm biased but they are better based on the games I have seen. But I think Florida, Texas and Michigan still getting too much love. Cal Poly has to be higher based just on the two straight over UCLA.

[Hawk Attack]

I just want to know who voted for Iowa so I know who my friends are

[huskerjen]

Sept 19, 2018 14:25:20 GMT -5 Hawk Attack said:

I just want to know who voted for Iowa so I know who my friends are

That was just someone deleting Iowa State from their ballot but accidentally only deleted the 'State'.
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[donut]

Sept 19, 2018 14:25:20 GMT -5 Hawk Attack said:

I just want to know who voted for Iowa so I know who my friends are

I'm open to bribes for next week's ballot...