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Post by caarmadillovb on Apr 30, 2022 13:43:02 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing. Saw the Dallas (and Houston) Skyline teams play a few times this year. Pepperdine looks to have a very solid incoming class.
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Post by bbg95 on May 1, 2022 20:58:44 GMT -5
I would find it hard to believe that any team has two outsides as powerful as six rotation players Emerson Sellman and Macaria Spears. Spears is actually a 2025 and is the more explosive player but Sellman appears to be the most consistent. They both are listed at 6'2". I think Spears is a bit taller. I've seen her listed at 6'3" in some places and 6'4" in others. She (and Metro) recently got a shoutout from her dad on First Take. https://www.instagram.com/p/CczItulANHK
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Post by clob on May 1, 2022 21:26:53 GMT -5
So who got the last bids in Reno?
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Post by vbnorcal on May 1, 2022 23:10:52 GMT -5
So who got the last bids in Reno? In 17 Open, Arizona Storm, SynergyForce, and Absolute. Trickled down since Houston Skyline & Club V finished 1 and 2.
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Post by VB48 on May 2, 2022 10:28:56 GMT -5
So who got the last bids in Reno? In 17 Open, Arizona Storm, SynergyForce, and Absolute. Trickled down since Houston Skyline & Club V finished 1 and 2. Club V finished 1, Skyline finished 2
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Post by zzyzx on May 2, 2022 17:00:04 GMT -5
Aren't there severe consequences for turning down an open bid? from the USAV championship manual: A Team may not decline an Open Bid. By playing in the Open Division, a Team is acknowledging and confirming its participation in GJNCs if a Bid is earned. Please Note: An 18 Open bid may not be declined. Penalties for Not Using a Bid
It is disruptive to the quality of the Event when Bids are returned after being accepted. There are financial consequences, administrative challenges, and logistical delays for Teams, Region administrators and USAV personnel. Inevitably this takes opportunities away from other Teams participating in the qualification process. A Team that does not use a GJNCs Open Bid (13’s-18’s) which it has earned, or a GJNCs National, USA, Liberty, American, or Freedom Bid which it has earned and accepted may be subject to the following penalties: I know we had a whole discussion on open teams, do the rules change for lower level bids? Say a team wins a USA bid at a qualifier then months later decides Indy is too expensive to travel to this summer, does that bid go back to USA volleyball or stay with the region to re-allocate? Are they penalized? Flights to USAV nationals are crazy expensive, I can't image the team I heard about is the only one having trouble convincing parents to go.
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Post by rogero1 on May 2, 2022 17:15:33 GMT -5
from the USAV championship manual: A Team may not decline an Open Bid. By playing in the Open Division, a Team is acknowledging and confirming its participation in GJNCs if a Bid is earned. Please Note: An 18 Open bid may not be declined. Penalties for Not Using a Bid
It is disruptive to the quality of the Event when Bids are returned after being accepted. There are financial consequences, administrative challenges, and logistical delays for Teams, Region administrators and USAV personnel. Inevitably this takes opportunities away from other Teams participating in the qualification process. A Team that does not use a GJNCs Open Bid (13’s-18’s) which it has earned, or a GJNCs National, USA, Liberty, American, or Freedom Bid which it has earned and accepted may be subject to the following penalties: I know we had a whole discussion on open teams, do the rules change for lower level bids? Say a team wins a USA bid at a qualifier then months later decides Indy is too expensive to travel to this summer, does that bid go back to USA volleyball or stay with the region to re-allocate? Are they penalized? Flights to USAV nationals are crazy expensive, I can't image the team I heard about is the only one having trouble convincing parents to go. Yes, they are. Please re-read moody’s last sentence in the post you replied to. If the ream can’t afford to travel to Indy, then they shouldn’t have accepted the bid. If moody can post the rest of penalties in the manual, we can find out what the penalties are.
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Post by winesalot on May 2, 2022 17:33:18 GMT -5
Does anyone know if there are any At Large Bids for 17s?
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Post by VB48 on May 2, 2022 18:09:57 GMT -5
There are no at large bids for 17's Open
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Post by latebloomer on May 3, 2022 15:22:49 GMT -5
Word is circulating here in Arizona that the Storm 17's team that got 3rd at Far Westerns will be stripped of that bid. They had an 18's player (who was playing up) join the 17's for Reno. Only problem is, that's a no-no. Apparently, it's against the rules to add a player to your roster for a qualifier. Maybe someone else can explain how that works.
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Post by jcvball22 on May 3, 2022 15:28:59 GMT -5
Word is circulating here in Arizona that the Storm 17's team that got 3rd at Far Westerns will be stripped of that bid. They had an 18's player (who was playing up) join the 17's for Reno. Only problem is, that's a no-no. Apparently, it's against the rules to add a player to your roster for a qualifier. Maybe someone else can explain how that works. That shouldn't be an issue, given the 18s season had concluded prior to Reno, releasing her from that team. As long as she met the age guidelines to play and was listed on their roster, it should be legal. There may be some stipulations to the timing, but I don't know exactly. This will be happening with a lot of 17s that are playing up and may join younger rosters after the conclusion of the 18s season.
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Post by justahick on May 3, 2022 15:49:11 GMT -5
Word is circulating here in Arizona that the Storm 17's team that got 3rd at Far Westerns will be stripped of that bid. They had an 18's player (who was playing up) join the 17's for Reno. Only problem is, that's a no-no. Apparently, it's against the rules to add a player to your roster for a qualifier. Maybe someone else can explain how that works. Once a team earns a bid, all players on that roster are frozen to that team for the purposes of qualifiers (and GJNC). If the player in question qualified in 18's for Az Storm, then the player is not allowed to play on any other roster.
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Post by justahick on May 3, 2022 15:51:35 GMT -5
Word is circulating here in Arizona that the Storm 17's team that got 3rd at Far Westerns will be stripped of that bid. They had an 18's player (who was playing up) join the 17's for Reno. Only problem is, that's a no-no. Apparently, it's against the rules to add a player to your roster for a qualifier. Maybe someone else can explain how that works. That shouldn't be an issue, given the 18s season had concluded prior to Reno, releasing her from that team. As long as she met the age guidelines to play and was listed on their roster, it should be legal. There may be some stipulations to the timing, but I don't know exactly. This will be happening with a lot of 17s that are playing up and may join younger rosters after the conclusion of the 18s season. They are allowed to switch AFTER the 17's team has qualified but are not allowed to "help two teams qualify"
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Post by vbfamily on May 3, 2022 16:37:19 GMT -5
Word is circulating here in Arizona that the Storm 17's team that got 3rd at Far Westerns will be stripped of that bid. They had an 18's player (who was playing up) join the 17's for Reno. Only problem is, that's a no-no. Apparently, it's against the rules to add a player to your roster for a qualifier. Maybe someone else can explain how that works. This is from the manual. usavolleyball.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/2022-GJNC-PTM-FINAL.pdf#page=24 (Page 20) A player may not help multiple Teams qualify for GJNCs. a. EXAMPLE 1: A player in the 17’s age division plays on an 18’s Team at a national qualifier and that Team Qualifies for the 18sGJNC in the Open Division. That player may not play on any other Team (e.g. a 17s Team trying to qualify for 17 Open) at any National Qualifying Events to help that Team qualify for the GJNC for the remainder of that club season. She may, however, be added to the 17 Open roster to play in the GJNC within that club. b. EXAMPLE 2: A club has a Team that has qualified for the 18 USA Division of the 18sGJNC, they may add a player from their club who plays on a younger Team to play in the 18sGJNC even if the younger Team has qualified for the GJNC. It has been this way for a while in regard to the frozen roster and not being able to help two teams qualify...obviously this rule was unknown, because the player that was added is arguably the top middle in the state and would be noticed at least by other Arizona clubs. More from the manual: Violations of the Frozen Player Rule may result in Sanctions being imposed on the already qualified Team, its club, the Team’s coach, the player and/or the club’s director. The USAV Events Department will determine Sanctions for violations of the Frozen Player Rule. Hopefully not too bad of sanctions, because I'm sure an honest mistake, but I assume the next team in line at Far Westerns will get the bid.
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Post by n00b on May 3, 2022 18:46:07 GMT -5
Word is circulating here in Arizona that the Storm 17's team that got 3rd at Far Westerns will be stripped of that bid. They had an 18's player (who was playing up) join the 17's for Reno. Only problem is, that's a no-no. Apparently, it's against the rules to add a player to your roster for a qualifier. Maybe someone else can explain how that works. This is from the manual. usavolleyball.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/2022-GJNC-PTM-FINAL.pdf#page=24 (Page 20) A player may not help multiple Teams qualify for GJNCs. a. EXAMPLE 1: A player in the 17’s age division plays on an 18’s Team at a national qualifier and that Team Qualifies for the 18sGJNC in the Open Division. That player may not play on any other Team (e.g. a 17s Team trying to qualify for 17 Open) at any National Qualifying Events to help that Team qualify for the GJNC for the remainder of that club season. She may, however, be added to the 17 Open roster to play in the GJNC within that club. b. EXAMPLE 2: A club has a Team that has qualified for the 18 USA Division of the 18sGJNC, they may add a player from their club who plays on a younger Team to play in the 18sGJNC even if the younger Team has qualified for the GJNC. It has been this way for a while in regard to the frozen roster and not being able to help two teams qualify...obviously this rule was unknown, because the player that was added is arguably the top middle in the state and would be noticed at least by other Arizona clubs. More from the manual: Violations of the Frozen Player Rule may result in Sanctions being imposed on the already qualified Team, its club, the Team’s coach, the player and/or the club’s director. The USAV Events Department will determine Sanctions for violations of the Frozen Player Rule. Hopefully not too bad of sanctions, because I'm sure an honest mistake, but I assume the next team in line at Far Westerns will get the bid. That would be NorCal. It’ll be interesting to see if they get the bid, or USAV awards an at large.
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