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Post by aardvark on Jun 20, 2024 16:31:59 GMT -5
I went to the Wikipedia entry for BLM. It is incredibly long and detailed, and includes a section at the bottom called "criticisms". There was one short paragraph there on "mismanagement of funds" related to buying a house. That was it that I could see that belonged to the category of "corruption".
There were longer sections discussing interactions with Democrats and Republicans. You might want to read this to refresh your memory.
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Post by BearClause on Jun 20, 2024 17:58:04 GMT -5
I went to the Wikipedia entry for BLM. It is incredibly long and detailed, and includes a section at the bottom called "criticisms". There was one short paragraph there on "mismanagement of funds" related to buying a house. That was it that I could see that belonged to the category of "corruption". There were longer sections discussing interactions with Democrats and Republicans. You might want to read this to refresh your memory. The house had to do with the organization called Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation. The organization is one of several Black Lives Matter organizations and possibly the oldest. However, they don't have exclusive use of the phrase and as far as I know the phrase is effectively in the public domain. They have some images and logos that are trademarked. But overall the Black Lives Matter movement is decentralized. As far as the house is concerned, the foundation claims that it isn't used as a personal residence, but as a "safe space" for those who might have been affected by violence as well as artists in residence. Certainly they bungled any message by making it so secretive for over year. Some of the following article reads more like a press release, but that could just be the point of view of the writer. apnews.com/article/black-lives-matter-finances-mansion-dc28cf47e3724c31d5791c90555b5b75The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation Inc., which was widely criticized last year for purchasing a $6 million compound with donations that followed racial justice protests in 2020, hosted the families for a dinner at the home this fall. The event coincided with an annual conference in southern California, where hundreds who are affected by police violence meet to find support in their journeys to healing, accountability and justice. More than 150 dinner guests, including some who previously accused the foundation of using their loved ones’ names to raise tens of millions of dollars over the last decade, were not just fed and sent on their way. They were given tours of the gated property that has six bedrooms and bathrooms, a swimming pool, a soundstage and office space.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 20, 2024 21:27:20 GMT -5
I went to the Wikipedia entry for BLM. It is incredibly long and detailed, and includes a section at the bottom called "criticisms". There was one short paragraph there on "mismanagement of funds" related to buying a house. That was it that I could see that belonged to the category of "corruption". There were longer sections discussing interactions with Democrats and Republicans. You might want to read this to refresh your memory. Super lazy response by you. The organization didn’t buy just one house. They abused the money given to them in the worst way. They were common crooks…shysters….. Who convinced all of you stupid people that they were going to do good things when they helped themselves. What a bunch of suckers you are.
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Post by oldnewbie on Jun 20, 2024 22:42:19 GMT -5
There always has to be at least one.
Missouri Republican Secretary of State candidate Valentina Gomez called Juneteenth, "The Most Ratchet Holiday in America"
and she told "Ungrateful" Black Americans, "get the f*ck out" of the country
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 20, 2024 23:15:59 GMT -5
There always has to be at least one. Missouri Republican Secretary of State candidate Valentina Gomez called Juneteenth, "The Most Ratchet Holiday in America" and she told "Ungrateful" Black Americans, "get the f*ck out" of the country Yeah, why did they even come here in the first place if they were only going to be complaining about how they were treated?
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Post by Fight On! on Jun 20, 2024 23:27:04 GMT -5
I went to the Wikipedia entry for BLM. It is incredibly long and detailed, and includes a section at the bottom called "criticisms". There was one short paragraph there on "mismanagement of funds" related to buying a house. That was it that I could see that belonged to the category of "corruption". There were longer sections discussing interactions with Democrats and Republicans. You might want to read this to refresh your memory. Super lazy response by you. The organization didn’t buy just one house. They abused the money given to them in the worst way. They were common crooks…shysters….. Who convinced all of you stupid people that they were going to do good things when they helped themselves. What a bunch of suckers you are. So, Trump basically, but on a smaller scale.
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Post by BearClause on Jun 21, 2024 0:05:39 GMT -5
Super lazy response by you. The organization didn’t buy just one house. They abused the money given to them in the worst way. They were common crooks…shysters….. Who convinced all of you stupid people that they were going to do good things when they helped themselves. What a bunch of suckers you are. So, Trump basically, but on a smaller scale. C'mon. It's not like they solicited donations for a political action committee and then spent that money on legal expenses to defend someone's private business. I mean - that would just be wrong. Or use foundation money to pay for a fine for someone's private business. Even worse. But seriously, Black Lives Matter Global Network got a windfall of donations in after George Floyd's death. After a while the interest seemed to have dried up. Donations of $76 million in fiscal year 2020, but less than $10 million the next fiscal year. blacklivesmatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/blmgnf-tc-form-990-2020-2021-01.pdfblacklivesmatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/blm-gnf-form-990-fy-2021-2022-01.pdfblacklivesmatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/2022-BLM-PUBLIC-DISCLOSURE-COPY.pdfEven then, I'm not sure who donated to them. Interest seems to have dropped. Doesn't bother me. Nonprofits come and go all the time.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 21, 2024 5:19:06 GMT -5
I went to the Wikipedia entry for BLM. It is incredibly long and detailed, and includes a section at the bottom called "criticisms". There was one short paragraph there on "mismanagement of funds" related to buying a house. That was it that I could see that belonged to the category of "corruption". There were longer sections discussing interactions with Democrats and Republicans. You might want to read this to refresh your memory. Super lazy response by you. The organization didn’t buy just one house. They abused the money given to them in the worst way. They were common crooks…shysters….. Who convinced all of you stupid people that they were going to do good things when they helped themselves. What a bunch of suckers you are. If I'm parsing your assessment correctly, you are offering little in the way of factual support for your insult-laden critique of BLM. Do I detect a touch of self-interest in wanting to make a Dem associated group look bad? In contrast, Wikipedia gives an incredibly long analysis jam-packed with all sorts of facts, some in favor of BLM, some not. Overall, though, in their view BLM comes off as mostly positive in a tough political climate. Two very different views. Then we bring in journalistic reputation. Yours and theirs. Sorry, dude. It's just not close. EDIT: Forgot to mention, you calling us suckers is yet another massive projection from a Trump cultist.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jun 21, 2024 7:56:28 GMT -5
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jun 21, 2024 8:06:26 GMT -5
There always has to be at least one. Missouri Republican Secretary of State candidate Valentina Gomez called Juneteenth, "The Most Ratchet Holiday in America" and she told "Ungrateful" Black Americans, "get the f*ck out" of the country Yep, this is why I don't necessarily like Juneteenth being used to highlight the stories of other Black trailblazers. The meaning behind Juneteenth gets lost along with the fact that this isn't about "Black history" this is American history.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 21, 2024 8:15:28 GMT -5
Where are you going with this?
The Wikipedia entry for BLM makes it clear that they are a decentralized organization, composed of many mostly independent subgroups. Any corruption that exists will likely be confined to that subgroup.
Because I'm at work right now, I can only see the names of your links, not their content. Going by that alone, the NBC news link is an accusation, and your other source is the NY Post. I prefer my one source to your two, in this case. In any event, you seem to be showing a desire to sully the reputation of the BLM, even though their stated goal is to get society to treat people like you better. Why?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jun 21, 2024 8:53:04 GMT -5
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Post by oldnewbie on Jun 21, 2024 9:37:47 GMT -5
There always has to be at least one. Missouri Republican Secretary of State candidate Valentina Gomez called Juneteenth, "The Most Ratchet Holiday in America" and she told "Ungrateful" Black Americans, "get the f*ck out" of the country Yep, this is why I don't necessarily like Juneteenth being used to highlight the stories of other Black trailblazers. The meaning behind Juneteenth gets lost along with the fact that this isn't about "Black history" this is American history. I disagree. Two questions: 1) When did Lincoln sign the Emancipation Proclamation to free the slaves, and how do we commemorate it? 2) When did the Civil War officially end, and how do we commemorate it? Answer is, of course, we don't. 156 years after the fact, we finally had Juneteenth, and THAT is over the top for some. I have zero sympathy for anyone that wants to pretend that 100 years of institutional oppression didn't occur after the war, that began with lynchings and massacres. That, of course, was followed by another 50 years of plain old-fashioned non-institutional racism and oppression. I have zero sympathy for this asshat and propose we do nothing to spare her poor, delicate feelings. The history needs to be confronted and dealt with, and Juneteenth is the mechanism to do that.
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Post by BearClause on Jun 21, 2024 9:50:37 GMT -5
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Post by BearClause on Jun 21, 2024 11:28:39 GMT -5
Where are you going with this? The Wikipedia entry for BLM makes it clear that they are a decentralized organization, composed of many mostly independent subgroups. Any corruption that exists will likely be confined to that subgroup. It's really just a movement where no entity actually controls the phrase or commands the movement. It's not like the Hell's Angels, which will go after anyone attempting to use their trademarked name and logos in any way that implies their support of such use. Now I'm not quite sure exactly how Black Lives Matter Global Network really fits in. They seem more like they give grants to local organizations as well as promote artists. But if people want to donate to them thinking it somehow promotes the broader message, that's their business. I'm frankly not surprised that anyone would argue over money after they had a huge influx of donations.
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