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Post by moderndaycoach on Jul 19, 2023 9:01:17 GMT -5
The next two weeks in Edmonton and Montreal will tell us a lot about who is Canada's #2 team. If Sophie and HB make it, that would be a pretty good storyline with HB coming out of retirement to play. And probably effectively end any serious future international prospects for Pavan. |
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Post by guest2 on Jul 19, 2023 10:28:38 GMT -5
If Sophie and HB make it, that would be a pretty good storyline with HB coming out of retirement to play. And probably effectively end any serious future international prospects for Pavan. Unfortunately I think that probably happened when she dumped Sophie, or when that breakup occurred. |
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Post by barnacle on Jul 19, 2023 15:06:43 GMT -5
So after this would you guys say 1. MHP/Brandie 2. Sophie/Heather 3. Pavan/McBain Just asking, as I'm not super familiar with how these new teams are panning out other than Brandie and MHP Watched the replay of the BC final and Sophie is looking so athletic. She was bouncing balls albeit against a much smaller Skodt block. Her passing was still atrocious. I'm excited to see how SBHB fair against better international competition. I hadn't seen Sophie before pairing with Brandie as a defender, so not sure if she was always doing this as a blocker, but I thought is was interesting her technique seems very Brandie inspired gathering her jump super low in the sand. Good to see as a smaller blocker. Currently I'd guess Pavan/McBain are still above SBHB since they were taken to three by a far below challenger level american duo. |
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Post by KO7 on Jul 20, 2023 9:40:55 GMT -5
So after this would you guys say 1. MHP/Brandie 2. Sophie/Heather 3. Pavan/McBain Just asking, as I'm not super familiar with how these new teams are panning out other than Brandie and MHP Watched the replay of the BC final and Sophie is looking so athletic. She was bouncing balls albeit against a much smaller Skodt block. Her passing was still atrocious. I'm excited to see how SBHB fair against better international competition. I hadn't seen Sophie before pairing with Brandie as a defender, so not sure if she was always doing this as a blocker, but I thought is was interesting her technique seems very Brandie inspired gathering her jump super low in the sand. Good to see as a smaller blocker. Currently I'd guess Pavan/McBain are still above SBHB since they were taken to three by a far below challenger level american duo. Yup, and IIRC, didn’t Pavan/McBain barely lose to eventual Espinho winners, Carol and Barbara? Bansley looked great and hasn’t lost a step, but really interested to see how she and Sophie do this week and next. |
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Post by KO7 on Jul 20, 2023 9:44:04 GMT -5
I'm calling it right now. SVE and Marshall break up within a year. Marshall gets sick of SVE's %*$# and retires and SVE quits to go back to making money indoor. SVE is a horrible beach player. Slow, zero effort, lazy. Dude doesn't look like he wants to actually be there. If they cant beat a young random team from Ontario they have zero hope. Heather looks like she hasn't lost a step. Wouldn't be surprised to see them making a big run at qualifying for the Olympics. Sophie's passing is the only thing stopping that duo. The matches I saw of Marshall and SVE, I couldn’t honestly tell you who looked the lazier and least-motivated out of the two. Sharone didn’t look comfortable on sand, but Marshall looked very sluggish too: Not taking strong approaches, barely ever taking a rip at the ball even when it would’ve made sense to. They both exuded such negative and lackadaisical energy towards each other. |
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Post by beachcomber on Jul 21, 2023 9:20:12 GMT -5
So after this would you guys say 1. MHP/Brandie 2. Sophie/Heather 3. Pavan/McBain Just asking, as I'm not super familiar with how these new teams are panning out other than Brandie and MHP Watched the replay of the BC final and Sophie is looking so athletic. She was bouncing balls albeit against a much smaller Skodt block. Her passing was still atrocious. I'm excited to see how SBHB fair against better international competition. I hadn't seen Sophie before pairing with Brandie as a defender, so not sure if she was always doing this as a blocker, but I thought is was interesting her technique seems very Brandie inspired gathering her jump super low in the sand. Good to see as a smaller blocker. Currently I'd guess Pavan/McBain are still above SBHB since they were taken to three by a far below challenger level american duo. Sophie has been blocking like that for a very long time. She made some good blocks in the qualifying round - she is clearly more comfortable playing that position. Her passing is still an issue, though, regardless of position. Heather looked really good early. Her scoring become somewhat inconsistent in the latter stages, but she can absolutely still bring it. They seem to have pretty good chemistry, too. Sarah and Molly got through fairly easily - best they've looked so far. Good to see Molly swing a few times and gaining some confidence. The Canadian men, on the other hand, are a disappointment. Only the wildcard got a team through. At least on the women's side you can look at the NCAA crop (including Sophie, Molly, Leah Monkhouse and the twins) and see some young talent. With no men's program in the NCAA, we are left with Volleyball Canada's output, and the results just aren't there. Who will be next after Schachter packs it in? |
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Post by dunninla3 on Jul 21, 2023 20:34:16 GMT -5
Heather looks like she hasn't lost a step. Wouldn't be surprised to see them making a big run at qualifying for the Olympics. Sophie's passing is the only thing stopping that duo. Her bump setting is also a box of chocolates. Working on her hand setting should be an emphasis at every practice from now on. |
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Post by ajm on Jul 21, 2023 21:26:45 GMT -5
Watched the replay of the BC final and Sophie is looking so athletic. She was bouncing balls albeit against a much smaller Skodt block. Her passing was still atrocious. I'm excited to see how SBHB fair against better international competition. I hadn't seen Sophie before pairing with Brandie as a defender, so not sure if she was always doing this as a blocker, but I thought is was interesting her technique seems very Brandie inspired gathering her jump super low in the sand. Good to see as a smaller blocker. Currently I'd guess Pavan/McBain are still above SBHB since they were taken to three by a far below challenger level american duo. Sophie has been blocking like that for a very long time. She made some good blocks in the qualifying round - she is clearly more comfortable playing that position. Her passing is still an issue, though, regardless of position. Heather looked really good early. Her scoring become somewhat inconsistent in the latter stages, but she can absolutely still bring it. They seem to have pretty good chemistry, too. Sarah and Molly got through fairly easily - best they've looked so far. Good to see Molly swing a few times and gaining some confidence. The Canadian men, on the other hand, are a disappointment. Only the wildcard got a team through. At least on the women's side you can look at the NCAA crop (including Sophie, Molly, Leah Monkhouse and the twins) and see some young talent. With no men's program in the NCAA, we are left with Volleyball Canada's output, and the results just aren't there. Who will be next after Schachter packs it in? It’s hard to believe the Canadian men have more Olympic medals than the women. |
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Post by twkpwrbtmlib on Jul 31, 2023 12:56:01 GMT -5
i think i saw spark in McBain this past weekend that i haven't seen. though, could be the home crowd. i think the biggest thing is both McBain and Pavan are too slow for the pace of where the game is heading.
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Post by recleague on Aug 1, 2023 10:06:02 GMT -5
Pavan and McBain are signed up for every Challenger this fall. Some of these smaller ones in Asia are good chances to get points when a lot of teams won't be going to them.
India and the Maldives in October. China, Thailand, and Philippines in November.
They are signed up for some Elite 16 events too but I don't think they'll even make it into the qualifier for those.
Bansley/Bukovec currently only signed up for Elite 16 events but they are even lower on entry points.
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Post by modulaire on Apr 2, 2024 2:13:08 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how the NORCECA Finals will work? In case Pavan/McBain don't qualify directly as CAN2.
How many teams from each country will play at this event? One or two?
How and when is it decided which team will take part?
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Post by beachcomber on Apr 2, 2024 10:07:21 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how the NORCECA Finals will work? In case Pavan/McBain don't qualify directly as CAN2. How many teams from each country will play at this event? One or two? How and when is it decided which team will take part? Only one team per gender takes part. Nations that have two teams qualify through the top 17/18 FIVB Olympics rankings do not participate in the continental qualifiers (not to be confused with the NORCECA FINALS, which is a different event). Volleyball Canada has published its nomination criteria for the NORCECA Qualifier and it is clear. The Canadian teams participating at the NORCECA will be nominated based on a points system. The first consideration is FIVB points collected in a team's four top finishes on te Pro Beach Tour (FIVB, any level) starting Jan 1, 2024. That would currently put Bansley and Bukovec ahead, and magnifies the impact of the apparent injury to Pavan that has been discussed elsewhere. The team that wins the qualifying event earns an Olympic spot for its federation. Volleyball Canada has clearly stated that if a Canadian team wins the NORCECA qualifier, it will also be awarded the Olympic berth. Details are here: volleyball.ca/uploads/National_Teams/Beach/Documents/VC_Beach_INP_Paris_2024_Final_with_Appendix_A_(August_24).pdf |
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Post by dunninla3 on Apr 2, 2024 10:10:14 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how the NORCECA Finals will work? In case Pavan/McBain don't qualify directly as CAN2. How many teams from each country will play at this event? One or two? How and when is it decided which team will take part? Only one team per gender takes part. Nations that have two teams qualify through the top 17/18 FIVB Olympics rankings do not participate in the continental qualifiers (not to be confused with the NORCECA FINALS, which is a different event). Volleyball Canada has published its nomination criteria for the NORCECA Qualifier and it is clear. The Canadian teams participating at the NORCECA will be nominated based on a points system. The first consideration is FIVB points collected in a team's four top finishes on te Pro Beach Tour (FIVB, any level) starting Jan 1, 2024. That would currently put Bansley and Bukovec ahead, and magnifies the impact of the apparent injury to Pavan that has been discussed elsewhere. The team that wins the qualifying event earns an Olympic spot for its federation. Volleyball Canada has clearly stated that if a Canadian team wins the NORCECA qualifier, it will also be awarded the Olympic berth. Details are here: volleyball.ca/uploads/National_Teams/Beach/Documents/VC_Beach_INP_Paris_2024_Final_with_Appendix_A_(August_24).pdfDoes USAV have a written document accessible online that defines this process as well? |
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Post by ajm on Apr 2, 2024 10:46:06 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how the NORCECA Finals will work? In case Pavan/McBain don't qualify directly as CAN2. How many teams from each country will play at this event? One or two? How and when is it decided which team will take part? Only one team per gender takes part. Nations that have two teams qualify through the top 17/18 FIVB Olympics rankings do not participate in the continental qualifiers (not to be confused with the NORCECA FINALS, which is a different event). Volleyball Canada has published its nomination criteria for the NORCECA Qualifier and it is clear. The Canadian teams participating at the NORCECA will be nominated based on a points system. The first consideration is FIVB points collected in a team's four top finishes on te Pro Beach Tour (FIVB, any level) starting Jan 1, 2024. That would currently put Bansley and Bukovec ahead, and magnifies the impact of the apparent injury to Pavan that has been discussed elsewhere. The team that wins the qualifying event earns an Olympic spot for its federation. Volleyball Canada has clearly stated that if a Canadian team wins the NORCECA qualifier, it will also be awarded the Olympic berth. Details are here: volleyball.ca/uploads/National_Teams/Beach/Documents/VC_Beach_INP_Paris_2024_Final_with_Appendix_A_(August_24).pdfNow it makes a little more sense why Heather thought she could wait so long to make a decision on unretiring last spring. Heather/Sophie are not likely to finish in the top 17 on points, but they have a pretty significant lead over Pavan/McBain by best four finishes in 2024. I sure hope we'll see a head-to-head matchup at some point. I did notice that Pavan/McBain are signed up for the NORCECA Finals in May, which will likely give them a boost in their attempt to finish in the top 17. I assume they were awarded the NORCECA Finals spot based on their current points total. But the way they played last weekend (injury or whatever) they are at a serious risk of falling out of the top 17, which would open the door up for Heather/Sophie. |
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