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Post by akbar on Jan 9, 2023 16:13:23 GMT -5
From the release... "A national search for the program's next coach will begin immediately. Sagula will remain the program's head coach until a successor is named." This seems significant to me. If they were going to name Mike Schall the coach, wouldn't he be interim while HR did its thing? If he were a candidate, wouldn't you make him the interim to see how the players respond, how practice goes, etc? This is no surprise. Your logic is off. Mike will be an excellent Head Coach. Perhaps he HASN'T become a head coach before by his choice. (Sometimes this happens) 😉🙂 |
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Post by akbar on Jan 9, 2023 16:16:13 GMT -5
From the release... "A national search for the program's next coach will begin immediately. Sagula will remain the program's head coach until a successor is named." This seems significant to me. If they were going to name Mike Schall the coach, wouldn't he be interim while HR did its thing? If he were a candidate, wouldn't you make him the interim to see how the players respond, how practice goes, etc? I agree with this. Just watched Joe's interview with Lee. Seemed like there was a pretty specific succession plan in place to help the a new coach transition in. If Mike was the selection , not sure all of that would be needed. I could be wrong. I would imagine a "National Search" is standard operating procedure or borderline even required for most all major universities. |
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Post by bvolley17 on Jan 9, 2023 16:31:55 GMT -5
I don't know. I certainly hope they are searching. With all respect to Mike, I cannot imagine much changing with him in the head job. Since he's been the first assistant at UNC we've only made the postseason one time. And Joe is pretty well know for letting the assistant coaches run a lot within the program. I am not saying it's impossible that he would do great, but given how the last five years have gone, I don't know that it's the direction I'd want to go in. I think it'd be great to get a younger, female coach in to run the program. Or Ryan Theis (ha!).
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 9, 2023 16:41:53 GMT -5
From the release... "A national search for the program's next coach will begin immediately. Sagula will remain the program's head coach until a successor is named." This seems significant to me. If they were going to name Mike Schall the coach, wouldn't he be interim while HR did its thing? If he were a candidate, wouldn't you make him the interim to see how the players respond, how practice goes, etc? This is no surprise. Your logic is off. Mike will be an excellent Head Coach. Perhaps he HASN'T become a head coach before by his choice. (Sometimes this happens) 😉🙂 We really don’t have any idea if he will be an excellent head coach. Great person, great pedigree, great asst….. but head coach is a different animal. If he wants it, I hope he gets it and does well |
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Post by comic on Jan 9, 2023 16:53:00 GMT -5
100% this route. He is excellent. Has zero head coaching experience. . . . . That seems to be the theme with the P5 Head Coaching Vacancies filled this year. |
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Post by vbnerd on Jan 9, 2023 18:01:51 GMT -5
From the release... "A national search for the program's next coach will begin immediately. Sagula will remain the program's head coach until a successor is named." This seems significant to me. If they were going to name Mike Schall the coach, wouldn't he be interim while HR did its thing? If he were a candidate, wouldn't you make him the interim to see how the players respond, how practice goes, etc? This is no surprise. Your logic is off. Mike will be an excellent Head Coach. Perhaps he HASN'T become a head coach before by his choice. (Sometimes this happens) 😉🙂 I didn't say he wouldn't be a great head coach. I didn't SAY anything. I did ask if UNCs positioning here made more sense if Mike were not a candidate/the choice. We'll see what happens. |
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Post by Phaedrus on Jan 9, 2023 19:11:47 GMT -5
I don't know. I certainly hope they are searching. With all respect to Mike, I cannot imagine much changing with him in the head job. Since he's been the first assistant at UNC we've only made the postseason one time. And Joe is pretty well know for letting the assistant coaches run a lot within the program. I am not saying it's impossible that he would do great, but given how the last five years have gone, I don't know that it's the direction I'd want to go in. I think it'd be great to get a younger, female coach in to run the program. Or Ryan Theis (ha!). You gave reasons for Not hiring Mike, basically the team record while he is assistant. So give reasons for extrapolating that a female coach or Theis' would have better success? Put specifically into the UNC context. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 9, 2023 19:19:44 GMT -5
So far I’ve heard:
- Brittany Dildine
- Mike Schall
- Matt Houk
- Jen Houk
- Kelli Miller Philips
- Eve Rackham
- Ryan Theis
Who else?
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Post by bvolley17 on Jan 9, 2023 19:31:31 GMT -5
Sure. I’m not saying that they’d have better success. You absolutely never know. It’s certainly possible Mike Schall would achieve success. It’s also possible he wouldn’t. There is no guarantee.
All-in-all, for me, I feel like the program needs new blood, and a new direction. Things have not been great in the program after the turnover in 2016 and keeping Mike as a HC continues that to an extent.
As for female head coaches, I feel like that has been said more generally. I would be happy if a woman was leading the program and UNC has been really investing in women in sports over the last few years and would certainly continue their campaign on making “HERstory”.
For me, specifically relating to female coaches, Dildine is one of the top assistants out there that people would like to see make the jump to the head coaching ranks. She’s been leading Wisco’s recruiting and their defense for years. We have a great track record of recruiting at UNC and to bring someone in with that level of success could potentially even increase our recruiting results. Also, defense has been an issue for us the last few years and it would be great to have someone who has had tremendous success over the last few years.
Another coach I like is Kelli Miller Phillips from
Ball State. She, and along with my impression of Ryan Theis, is that they exceed expectations with less talent, meaning that it appears that they excel at player development and game planning opponents. I think most people who follow UNC closely can say that the development of players has been lacking in the past few years and oftentimes it doesn’t feel like we’ve scouted our opponents. We do well when we have talent; however, we have not really shown the ability to develop the players to the next level. Although, the transfers out of the program have made it difficult to evaluate a bit, too.
Additionally, in-game adjustments are something that have been lacking at UNC in the past few years. When I’ve watched Marquette - and a few of those Ball State games - I feel like you’ve seen that in their games. Additionally, they both have head coaching experience, which is also great.
Those are the three coaches that would be at the top of my list. I think they all achieve something that UNC has struggled with from my seat.
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Post by bvolley17 on Jan 9, 2023 19:56:52 GMT -5
I’ll also say, if Eve came back, you have the argument that the greatest success UNC had ever had was with her and Tyler on the bench. So, we’ve seen that they’ve had success here.
I know she’s not everyone’s cup of tea - I remember when Schnabl called her a “straight-up Slytherin” - but she has had success here and is an alum.
I’m hesitant if the allegations one of the athletes posted at Tennessee are true. But I’m assuming she could be in the mix for the job as well.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 9, 2023 21:37:01 GMT -5
I don't know. I certainly hope they are searching. With all respect to Mike, I cannot imagine much changing with him in the head job. Since he's been the first assistant at UNC we've only made the postseason one time. And Joe is pretty well know for letting the assistant coaches run a lot within the program. I am not saying it's impossible that he would do great, but given how the last five years have gone, I don't know that it's the direction I'd want to go in. I think it'd be great to get a younger, female coach in to run the program. Or Ryan Theis (ha!). You gave reasons for Not hiring Mike, basically the team record while he is assistant. So give reasons for extrapolating that a female coach or Theis' would have better success? Put specifically into the UNC context. Well Theis is a proven head coach and he’s having terrific success somewhere not even close to as attractive to PSA’s nationally. I certainly see your greater point, but Theis has A proven track track record. |
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Post by jackson5vb on Jan 9, 2023 23:58:15 GMT -5
I've got 5 good candidates:
C Crawford (sort of local, great recruiter)
E Dillard (lots of potential)
E Herman-Kimball (she has done pretty well at a school that players don't want to go to)
H Olmstead (that might increase the Duke UNC rivalry)
B Starky (amazing history and time for him to go D1)
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 10, 2023 9:37:46 GMT -5
Interesting time to announce retirement, and not in a good way.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jan 10, 2023 9:50:48 GMT -5
You gave reasons for Not hiring Mike, basically the team record while he is assistant. So give reasons for extrapolating that a female coach or Theis' would have better success? Put specifically into the UNC context. Well Theis is a proven head coach and he’s having terrific success somewhere not even close to as attractive to PSA’s nationally. I certainly see your greater point, but Theis has A proven track track record. This is not to say that I think Theis is a bad choice. He has certainly had a great track record at a mid-major with limit budget and resources. The McGuire Center is a great venue and he has certainly proven himself in that context. But can we extrapolate his success at Marquette and Ohio onto predicting success at a P5 job? He does have more certainties than any assistants without HC experience, but what does that experience do for ourvprognostication of his success at the next level? I am not sure. Some coaches are better working under contained resources ans expectations, while others will blossom under more liberal constraints. My point is you don't know until you put them there. I think we put too much faith in previous records while ignoring the impact of change in environment and resources. |
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Post by vbcoach06 on Jan 10, 2023 10:20:15 GMT -5
If I'm the UNC admin...my first call is to someone already in my state. What Chris Willis has done at Davidson has been nothing short of remarkable.
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