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Post by beachcoach on Mar 29, 2024 15:57:30 GMT -5
Vieira/Chamereau just forfeited to Placette/Richard. That seems to provide evidence that the French will still get a host country spot if FRA1 qualifies via points. I think we already have the answer from the FIVB... If FRA1 enters the top18, FRA2 will have a WC to Paris2024... Obviously, FRA2 does not play against FRA1 to classify it directly to the round of 16 and they will already score points in this tournament ... What will the Lithuanians. Finnish and Czechs think? ... Surely it is very unsportsmanlike I was with you in m this. And felt sure it was correct. Then I talked to a ref supervisor and he didn’t agree. France one have the host spot that’s on the FIVB oly qual list. Second spot earned through CC. It seems crazy that it can’t be earned through being in the top 17. I just can’t see it written down to verify this from all the documents I have been sent and links I have checked. On site that’s what people are saying that France one gets top 17 second team gets host country. But I would like to see this clarified in actual words on an FIVB site. Anyone?
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Post by ajm on Mar 29, 2024 16:09:13 GMT -5
Wow. McCain can’t buy a sideout right now. Rough start. Whew. Down one match point in the second McBain comes up with a couple digs and Sarah sends us to three with an option pokey!! I don't think I've ever seen Pavan fall down to the sand so much in a match. Not fall down like diving for a ball, but just getting off balance because she just wasn't in the right position to play a ball. McBain didn't do enough to help her out either. Definitely some rust with this team if not an injury, compared to where they were last year.
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Post by maizecrayons on Mar 29, 2024 16:10:56 GMT -5
Whew. Down one match point in the second McBain comes up with a couple digs and Sarah sends us to three with an option pokey!! I don't think I've ever seen Pavan fall down to the sand so much in a match. Not fall down like diving for a ball, but just getting off balance because she just wasn't in the right position to play a ball. McBain didn't do enough to help her out either. Definitely some rust with this team if not an injury, compared to where they were last year. Agreed. Pavan’s movement looked uncomfortable at best.
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Post by houdini on Mar 29, 2024 16:33:48 GMT -5
Third set: zero blocks for Pavan, zero aces, and zero kills out of three attempts (including one error) = 10:15 loss. MvBain had nine kills wlah one error in 15 third set attempts. The stats show that Finland played near to perfect in the third set. fivb.12ndr.at/match?match=420267&refresh=false
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 29, 2024 16:39:36 GMT -5
I'm two hours behind, now watching CAN2 v. FIN elimination match. Pavan looks ... terrible. Awkward, slow, missing serves, hitting softly at the defender. Pavan may not be the better player on her team in this match. ?
edit -- ok, CAN2 loses and goes home. lost to FIN, a team competing with CAN2 for spot 18 for Paris.
I'm wondering, based on how Pavan looked, if she is 100%. This could explain why they skipped Recife last week.
I still think, if Pavan doesn't completely suck in a match, they'll pick up points in other tournaments and still make it to Paris, but this one was a head scratcher.
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Post by maizecrayons on Mar 30, 2024 8:34:26 GMT -5
I’ve been flipping between matches and just switched in to find Agatha Rebecca down 16-5 at the tech?! What happened??
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 30, 2024 10:11:40 GMT -5
just want to point out that Liliana and Paula, ESP2, played a very gutsy match to beat BRA and advance to the Rd. of 8... which is greatly significant for them as they are also in the race for Olympic spot #18. Only ESP2 and AUT are still in this tournament among the teams ranked 17-25, using Top 9 finishes as a metric. Great chance for ESP2 and AUT to gain ground since LTU in 17th, and CAN2 in 18th exited early and gained no points. ESP2 will already gain good points as they've advance into Quarterfinals, assuring 5th at minimum and 600 points. This puts ESP2 from 24th spot into 21st spot in my Top 9 finishes rank order, just ahead of CZE who are now in 22nd.
The battle for SUI2 between the sisters Verge-Depre who are essentially tied with each other, moves on into the Rd. of 16... advantage at the moment to Anouk who has moved into Rd. of 8 with Zoe not having played her Rd. of 16 game as of now.
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 30, 2024 10:49:06 GMT -5
AUT win set 1 v. ESP1, and take it to 19-20 set 2, and ... serve Alvarez. That is a head scratcher. Alvarez is much betyer at siding out than Moreno is. Perhaps they're more afraid of Alvarez taking the option off a serve to Moreno.
I would keep it on Moreno and make her beat me... with pass to Option, or taking the shot.
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 30, 2024 10:54:45 GMT -5
SUI2 v. CHN -- in the 3rd. I'm impressed with Zoe body language in this match.. eye of the tiger.
China now move the serve to Bobner and get a point.
OK, Zoe out, Anouk already in Rd. of 8, so Joanouk now SUI2 again. Big sister in the advantageous position again.
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Post by robvolei on Mar 30, 2024 11:03:12 GMT -5
AUT win set 1 v. ESP1, and take it to 19-20 set 2, and ... serve Alvarez. That is a head scratcher. Alvarez is much betyer at siding out than Moreno is. Perhaps they're more afraid of Alvarez taking the option off a serve to Moreno.
I would keep it on Moreno and make her beat me... with pass to Option, or taking the shot.
Alvarez was falling over and it looked like she was injured. I'd still serve Moreno, though. Austria should've won. They bottled it big time.
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Post by houdini on Mar 30, 2024 11:15:36 GMT -5
AUT win set 1 v. ESP1, and take it to 19-20 set 2, and ... serve Alvarez. That is a head scratcher. Alvarez is much betyer at siding out than Moreno is. Perhaps they're more afraid of Alvarez taking the option off a serve to Moreno.
I would keep it on Moreno and make her beat me... with pass to Option, or taking the shot.
Alvarez seemd to have some physical problem, as she stopped playing in one first set point - and then in the second set she ran to her bench after Spain scored a point. Spain was charged with a time-out. Anyway she played well after that. While Alvarez recuperated, he Klingers seemed to have run out of gas and were not as sharp in the third set.
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Post by houdini on Mar 30, 2024 11:25:46 GMT -5
I'm a bit surprised that conditioning seems to play such a big role. You can literally see the drop-off in performance. Both Zoe/Bobner and France's Vieira/Chamereau both lost their games after strong wins in the round of 18. They had to start warming up 90 minutes after their wins for the Round of 16.
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Post by beachcoach on Mar 30, 2024 13:52:08 GMT -5
I think we already have the answer from the FIVB... If FRA1 enters the top18, FRA2 will have a WC to Paris2024... Obviously, FRA2 does not play against FRA1 to classify it directly to the round of 16 and they will already score points in this tournament ... What will the Lithuanians. Finnish and Czechs think? ... Surely it is very unsportsmanlike I was with you in m this. And felt sure it was correct. Then I talked to a ref supervisor and he didn’t agree. France one have the host spot that’s on the FIVB oly qual list. Second spot earned through CC. It seems crazy that it can’t be earned through being in the top 17. I just can’t see it written down to verify this from all the documents I have been sent and links I have checked. On site that’s what people are saying that France one gets top 17 second team gets host country. But I would like to see this clarified in actual words on an FIVB site. Anyone? From ref supervisor in Saquerema. Yes France keep their host spot and can get a second team if they either qualify through top 17, win WCh or win their Continental cup. So everything to play for for France 1.
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Post by dunninla3 on Mar 30, 2024 13:55:54 GMT -5
I'm a bit surprised that conditioning seems to play such a big role. You can literally see the drop-off in performance. Both Zoe/Bobner and France's Vieira/Chamereau both lost their games after strong wins in the round of 18. They had to start warming up 90 minutes after their wins for the Round of 16. good argument for avoiding Rd. of 18! However Cuba on the Men's side was able to do it. But their competition, and aging Pedro, really had more to do with it than their fitness level.
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Post by ajm on Mar 30, 2024 14:01:08 GMT -5
I was with you in m this. And felt sure it was correct. Then I talked to a ref supervisor and he didn’t agree. France one have the host spot that’s on the FIVB oly qual list. Second spot earned through CC. It seems crazy that it can’t be earned through being in the top 17. I just can’t see it written down to verify this from all the documents I have been sent and links I have checked. On site that’s what people are saying that France one gets top 17 second team gets host country. But I would like to see this clarified in actual words on an FIVB site. Anyone? From ref supervisor in Saquerema. Yes France keep their host spot and can get a second team if they either qualify through top 17, win WCh or win their Continental cup. So everything to play for for France 1. Now it makes perfect sense why FRA2 would forfeit against FRA1. You should ask the referee supervisor if there’s been any discussion of doing anything to discourage all the forfeits. Can’t imagine it’s not a hot topic among referees/tournament director/event promoter, etc.
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