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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Aug 8, 2024 22:27:41 GMT -5
The ruling that the AAU created is NOT based on the state. It is the SAME rule that the AAU has had for years in girls volleyball.
Meaning, if you are in a bordering district you can play for that club. You cannot play for a club unless an out of district waiver is approved by the AAU.
As explained on the call with the AAU, that sports can create their own rules. Contrary to the message spreading around right now, team sports are different than individual sports. If a kid wants to travel to somewhere for an individual training by all means do it. Team sports are impacted by multiple athlete.
You can medal in gymnastics and swimming and the club/organization doesn’t win it all but still claims the medal…. You can’t medal in team sports without the entire team being strong enough to do so. Comparing individual sports to team sports is not the same.
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Post by gocougs on Aug 8, 2024 22:46:12 GMT -5
So as someone not on the call... is it the same rule that was waived for 2 years? (That any club director competing at a national Open level should know how it works because it's not new)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2024 22:50:31 GMT -5
This is a direct attack on Arielle and B2B! If Mikhailenko wants to fly back and forth from Cali-Milwaukee and B2B has the funds to pay for him to do so then so be it!
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Aug 8, 2024 23:09:02 GMT -5
This is a direct attack on Arielle and B2B! If Mikhailenko wants to fly back and forth from Cali-Milwaukee and B2B has the funds to pay for him to do so then so be it! Aren’t you the same advocate that California is supreme? So if California is so supreme, why recruit kids outside of Cali to play? And if this was an isolated situation with Rafa, why do you have direct knowledge of one of the athletes being recruited? Only person throwing the club, athlete, and why this is a good rule under the bus is you my friend. Even Ariel didn’t put ONE of the athletes being recruited out there. She made it about Rafa. You my friend completely showed why this is a good thing. |
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Aug 8, 2024 23:09:54 GMT -5
So as someone not on the call... is it the same rule that was waived for 2 years? (That any club director competing at a national Open level should know how it works because it's not new) Correct. The rule that AAU has had in place for years in volleyball. They waived it to allow clubs like C2 and HVA (who are not in volleyball hot beds like California) compete. |
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Post by gocougs on Aug 9, 2024 6:17:03 GMT -5
Pigs get fed, Hogs get slaughtered.
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Post by couchanalyst on Aug 9, 2024 9:23:13 GMT -5
Atleast Rafa's petition is a bit more honest while beating around the bush about leadership, underprivileged kids playing volleyball in podunk places etc, where the clubs coaches are terrible where he said:
"It is what is best for all of us and our careers. "
B2B Arielle super team is not good for men's volleyball as a whole. Roman Payne, Mikhailenko, Layton Bluth do not need Arielle to teach them how to play volleyball. B2B wants the super team to float more trophies around the lazy river on social media while taking away development opportunities from bay area kids-->This gives them more recruiting power for clinics etc etc, very smart business move. Or who knows maybe B2B 18-5 team already gets free club dues and jerseys as that would certainly help grow the game in the bay area and give kids more real opportunities.
But then again, men's volleyball college teams already offer players full ride scholarships and possibly five figure cash payments, and with the new NCAA changes and the 18 man roster, it will absolutely go to Balboa Bay next offering cash payments to 18 Blue recruits on top of free flights, jerseys, club dues so they will remain competitive with B2B.
That's just the world we live in.
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Post by gofaster88 on Aug 9, 2024 10:40:24 GMT -5
Atleast Rafa's petition is a bit more honest while beating around the bush about leadership, underprivileged kids playing volleyball in podunk places etc, where the clubs coaches are terrible where he said: "It is what is best for all of us and our careers. " B2B Arielle super team is not good for men's volleyball as a whole. Roman Payne, Mikhailenko, Layton Bluth do not need Arielle to teach them how to play volleyball. B2B wants the super team to float more trophies around the lazy river on social media while taking away development opportunities from bay area kids-->This gives them more recruiting power for clinics etc etc, very smart business move. Or who knows maybe B2B 18-5 team already gets free club dues and jerseys as that would certainly help grow the game in the bay area and give kids more real opportunities. But then again, men's volleyball college teams already offer players full ride scholarships and possibly five figure cash payments, and with the new NCAA changes and the 18 man roster, it will absolutely go to Balboa Bay next offering cash payments to 18 Blue recruits on top of free flights, jerseys, club dues so they will remain competitive with B2B. That's just the world we live in. You've already seen his petition? There is no doubt they (B2B) doesn't need to do this. Will the neighboring district rule be kept? Bluth being in AZ would still be available as well as Payne? Only ones affected would be Aleksay and Rafa. |
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Aug 9, 2024 10:59:00 GMT -5
Atleast Rafa's petition is a bit more honest while beating around the bush about leadership, underprivileged kids playing volleyball in podunk places etc, where the clubs coaches are terrible where he said: "It is what is best for all of us and our careers. " B2B Arielle super team is not good for men's volleyball as a whole. Roman Payne, Mikhailenko, Layton Bluth do not need Arielle to teach them how to play volleyball. B2B wants the super team to float more trophies around the lazy river on social media while taking away development opportunities from bay area kids-->This gives them more recruiting power for clinics etc etc, very smart business move. Or who knows maybe B2B 18-5 team already gets free club dues and jerseys as that would certainly help grow the game in the bay area and give kids more real opportunities. But then again, men's volleyball college teams already offer players full ride scholarships and possibly five figure cash payments, and with the new NCAA changes and the 18 man roster, it will absolutely go to Balboa Bay next offering cash payments to 18 Blue recruits on top of free flights, jerseys, club dues so they will remain competitive with B2B. That's just the world we live in. You've already seen his petition? There is no doubt they (B2B) doesn't need to do this. Will the neighboring district rule be kept? Bluth being in AZ would still be available as well as Payne? Only ones affected would be Aleksay and Rafa. Yeah, Rafa was not hiding what they are trying to do. Good for him on being honest of it. He did not beat around the bush. California is in 4 different districts. The district Bay to Bay would be in is the Pacific district. The way the map shows it may not impact them too much. However the central district get's screwed out of a lot... Would hate to be them. aausports.org/exec.php |
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Post by couchanalyst on Aug 9, 2024 11:38:51 GMT -5
I think Roman from Coast is two regions over as SD is separate from rest of SoCal.
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Post by gofaster88 on Aug 9, 2024 12:37:52 GMT -5
I think Roman from Coast is two regions over as SD is separate from rest of SoCal. Wow you are right based off the map San Diego would be 2 over. Kind of funny how AZ would be fine but San Diego wouldn't |
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Post by thebaytocsulb on Aug 9, 2024 13:05:27 GMT -5
Just grandfather in anyone from last season's rosters and move on. Play ball!
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Post by gofaster88 on Aug 9, 2024 13:42:32 GMT -5
Volleyballmag this seems like a good topic for an article.
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Post by gtrich on Aug 9, 2024 13:50:46 GMT -5
IMO, this is a solution looking for a problem on the boys volleyball side. In reality, it probably only affects a few teams on 3 or 4 clubs because of where they are located compared to where boys who play volleyball actually live. Before it was brought up here, the only clubs I knew that had the issue were HVA and C2, and it was only on a couple of teams at those clubs. The only other one I knew of was an Austin kid that was flying to CA to play on one of the teams. However, that issue went away when they moved to CA and established residency. Unfortunately, now that AAU has effectively killed off USAV boys nationals, we're going back to the their way or the highway rules.
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Aug 9, 2024 16:07:49 GMT -5
IMO, this is a solution looking for a problem on the boys volleyball side. In reality, it probably only affects a few teams on 3 or 4 clubs because of where they are located compared to where boys who play volleyball actually live. Before it was brought up here, the only clubs I knew that had the issue were HVA and C2, and it was only on a couple of teams at those clubs. The only other one I knew of was an Austin kid that was flying to CA to play on one of the teams. However, that issue went away when they moved to CA and established residency. Unfortunately, now that AAU has effectively killed off USAV boys nationals, we're going back to the their way or the highway rules. A few clubs that are premier clubs that don’t necessarily need the extra talent are the reason why this immediate action happened. They didn’t do anything against the boundaries of the rule however taking advantage of rules isnt necessarily positive for the sport. |
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