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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 5, 2023 11:34:56 GMT -5
Lol, well if none of them are good enough there’s nobody left…. 😭 Literally only 2 of them finished in the top 20 of Volley Dorks list of Top Attacking OHs for last season, so hard to see how there is nobody left. Landfair was 4th and Rubin was 18th. Luper was next at 24th. You are missing a whole lotta names. 90% of those top 20 names are graduated or poor passers? |
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 5, 2023 11:37:53 GMT -5
More than 4 k/s and 400 serve receives:
Taylor Landfair (Minnesota)
Eva Hudson (Purdue)
Raina Terry (Illinois)
Brooke Neneviller (Oregon)
Claire Hoffman (Washington)
Madelyn Robinson (Utah)
Gracie Johnson (Duke)
Julia Bergmann (Georgia Tech)
McKenna Melville (UCF)
Caroline Meuth (Texas A&M)
Kacie Evans (Georgia)
Expand to 3.5 k/s:
Lauren Harrison (Baylor)
Audrey Nails (TCU)
Kenna Sauer (Texas Tech)
Abbie Jackson (Houston)
Sarah Franklin (Wisconsin)
Mady Saris (Indiana)
Jess Mruzik (Michigan)
Pia Timmer (Washington State)
Laura Jansen (Washington State)
Katie Lukes (San Diego)
Claire Chaussee (Louisville)
Polina Shemanova (Syracuse)
Mabrey Shaffmaster (North Carolina)
Angela Grieve (Miami-Fl)
Grace Turner (Virgnia)
Sanaa Dotson (LSU)
Akasha Anderson (Auburn)
Taylor Head (Arkansas)
Jillian Gillen (Arkansas)
Kaylee Cox (Missouri)
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 5, 2023 11:40:09 GMT -5
More than 4 k/s and 400 serve receives: Raina Terry (Illinois) Oh god not Raina Terry. No disrespect meant (She's an offensive queen) but she's one of the worst passers in recent memory. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 5, 2023 11:48:28 GMT -5
Melville obviously great but lol low key did she ever actually play well offensively against a high level team Very small sample size. Looking at the final Pablo Ratings - she only played a top 30 team 4 matches all season. Wasn't good at all in the first match with Houston, but was okay the 2nd time. Was okay against Penn State in the tournament. None of those were good hitting matches for her (let alone great). Against Kansas - she was phenomenal hitting. Since that is the only match I watched her play last year - I may be biased. |
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Post by mma40027002 on Jul 5, 2023 12:05:57 GMT -5
With so much emphasis on blocking and height, it's rare to see a truly exceptional 6-rotation OH---one that dominates / terminates and also passes serve well and plays incredible floor defense. I don't care how athletic a person is...it's challenging to move down to pass and dig at 6'3 and it's challenging to easily put balls down and put up a strong block at 5'8. I've seen some greats for sure but there are usually better defender/passer options on the bench for those dominant hitters. A lot of teams sacrifice better backrow ball control so they have a backrow attack or to allow their OHs to play 6.
Nuneviller, Melville, Junhke, and Head are a few I watched the past couple of years that I felt like were really strong at both. And before I get attacked for not picking players who were on dominant teams, I just think these 4 hit the sweet spot of being really good at both front and back row and are not liabilities in either place.
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 5, 2023 12:08:54 GMT -5
With so much emphasis on blocking and height, it's rare to see a truly exceptional 6-rotation OH---one that dominates / terminates and also passes serve well and plays incredible floor defense. I don't care how athletic a person is...it's challenging to move down to pass and dig at 6'3 and it's challenging to easily put balls down and put up a strong block at 5'8. I've seen some greats for sure but there are usually better defender/passer options on the bench for those dominant hitters. A lot of teams sacrifice better backrow ball control so they have a backrow attack or to allow their OHs to play 6. Nuneviller, Melville, Junhke, and Head are a few I watched the past couple of years that I felt like were really strong at both. And before I get attacked for not picking players who were on dominant teams, I just think these 4 hit the sweet spot of being really good at both front and back row and are not liabilities in either place. Juhnke has been a poor passer. |
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Post by mma40027002 on Jul 5, 2023 12:11:30 GMT -5
With so much emphasis on blocking and height, it's rare to see a truly exceptional 6-rotation OH---one that dominates / terminates and also passes serve well and plays incredible floor defense. I don't care how athletic a person is...it's challenging to move down to pass and dig at 6'3 and it's challenging to easily put balls down and put up a strong block at 5'8. I've seen some greats for sure but there are usually better defender/passer options on the bench for those dominant hitters. A lot of teams sacrifice better backrow ball control so they have a backrow attack or to allow their OHs to play 6. Nuneviller, Melville, Junhke, and Head are a few I watched the past couple of years that I felt like were really strong at both. And before I get attacked for not picking players who were on dominant teams, I just think these 4 hit the sweet spot of being really good at both front and back row and are not liabilities in either place. Juhnke has been a poor passer. I have no access to passing numbers, these picks are based on the eye test. I only saw Junhke play twice but I thought she passed well in those games. Of course, the level of competition always needs to be considered. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Jul 5, 2023 12:12:10 GMT -5
Literally only 2 of them finished in the top 20 of Volley Dorks list of Top Attacking OHs for last season, so hard to see how there is nobody left. Landfair was 4th and Rubin was 18th. Luper was next at 24th. You are missing a whole lotta names. Who would you name ? mentioned a bunch. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Jul 5, 2023 12:37:11 GMT -5
Literally only 2 of them finished in the top 20 of Volley Dorks list of Top Attacking OHs for last season, so hard to see how there is nobody left. Landfair was 4th and Rubin was 18th. Luper was next at 24th. You are missing a whole lotta names. 90% of those top 20 names are graduated or poor passers? Well, a highly terminal poor passer may well be a better prospect than a poor hitter, and we are talking about the Olympic team with a wide range of ages, and there is no particular reason why there have to be ANY 6ro OHs in any particular 4 year bands. The recently graduated players could be better than anybody coming back this year. Time will tell. |
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Post by forvolley on Jul 5, 2023 12:40:40 GMT -5
Landfair - Minnesota
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 5, 2023 12:42:46 GMT -5
90% of those top 20 names are graduated or poor passers? Well, a highly terminal poor passer may well be a better prospect than a poor hitter, and we are talking about the Olympic team with a wide range of ages, and there is no particular reason why there have to be ANY 6ro OHs in any particular 4 year bands. The recently graduated players could be better than anybody coming back this year. Time will tell. the original poster specifically asked for outside hitters that will be eligible this upcoming season |
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Post by bigjohn043 on Jul 5, 2023 13:09:09 GMT -5
A quick look at volleydork who has done a list of the best attacking OH: www.volleydork.com/post/best-outside-hitters-in-ncaa-womens-volleyball-2022And the best passers www.volleydork.com/post/top-passers-in-ncaa-womens-volleyball-2022Nuneviller is 9 as ah attacking OH and 6 as a passer with liberos included in that category. Of course she was a senior last year. The only returning player is Rubin at 18 as a hitter and 23 as a passer. FWIW, I thought Rubin was already a better hitter as a freshman than McClure ever was. Rubin hit 230 (250 in conference) with 3.1k KPS (4.1 in conference) versus McClure who hit 241 with 1.92 KPS in 2019. I also agree that while both hitting and passing can be improved, getting to a truly elite level is mostly about physical gifts that are difficult to really develop as you get older. |
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 5, 2023 13:15:00 GMT -5
Pretty sure Kim Hill was a non-passing opposite in 2011 at Pepperdine. Few years later and she's an mvp outside hitter for a World Championship
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Post by oldnewbie on Jul 5, 2023 13:16:41 GMT -5
Well, a highly terminal poor passer may well be a better prospect than a poor hitter, and we are talking about the Olympic team with a wide range of ages, and there is no particular reason why there have to be ANY 6ro OHs in any particular 4 year bands. The recently graduated players could be better than anybody coming back this year. Time will tell. the original poster specifically asked for outside hitters that will be eligible this upcoming season OK. That doesn't change the fact they will prefer to work with the upside of someone much more terminal, like a Fields or Skinner, or perhaps nobody at all if the players immediately before (Eggleston and others) or after (not in college yet) end up being better. |
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Post by acea on Jul 5, 2023 13:36:55 GMT -5
Pretty sure Kim Hill was a non-passing opposite in 2011 at Pepperdine. Few years later and she's an mvp outside hitter for a World Championship Didn’t she also play beach though? Not that that would really develop her SR but she generally had to have some good ball control |
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